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John D

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Hello
Hope this is the right way to go. Let me know if I am wrong.
My profession is a Gold and Silversmith. Quite buy accident I opened your site where a question was asked..
How to make a "Draw Plate" and how to use it.. I imagined it was to be used for drawing down wire.. After reading it appears you use it for shaping wood. News to me as I have never imagined such..
In 1967 I joined the Royal New Zealand Navy so I do have a Marine pedigree.. Not for four masted canvas rigged vessels but ships with steam and later on gas turbine..

So in thinking about your Ships of Scale you would may need a Draw Plate..

So to purchase or make for your own requirements I could help you with a few pointers. With friends I have helped for example to make patterns for pulley blocks etc..

I am not up printing cad on computer . That is above my skill base. Just the old way.

Please let me know ion this is of interest..

A wonderful place you have here.. All the best who sail here.






Regards
JohnD
 
John D said:
Hello
Hope this is the right way to go. Let me know if I am wrong.
My profession is a Gold and Silversmith. Quite buy accident I opened your site where a question was asked..
How to make a "Draw Plate" and how to use it.. I imagined it was to be used for drawing down wire.. After reading it appears you use it for shaping wood. News to me as I have never imagined such..
In 1967 I joined the Royal New Zealand Navy so I do have a Marine pedigree.. Not for four masted canvas rigged vessels but ships with steam and later on gas turbine..

So in thinking about your Ships of Scale you would may need a Draw Plate..

So to purchase or make for your own requirements I could help you with a few pointers. With friends I have helped for example to make patterns for pulley blocks etc..

I am not up printing cad on computer . That is above my skill base. Just the old way.

Please let me know ion this is of interest..

A wonderful place you have here.. All the best who sail here.






Regards
JohnD
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Welcome to the forums !
 
John D said:
Hello
Hope this is the right way to go. Let me know if I am wrong.
My profession is a Gold and Silversmith. Quite buy accident I opened your site where a question was asked..
How to make a "Draw Plate" and how to use it.. I imagined it was to be used for drawing down wire.. After reading it appears you use it for shaping wood. News to me as I have never imagined such..
In 1967 I joined the Royal New Zealand Navy so I do have a Marine pedigree.. Not for four masted canvas rigged vessels but ships with steam and later on gas turbine..

So in thinking about your Ships of Scale you would may need a Draw Plate..

So to purchase or make for your own requirements I could help you with a few pointers. With friends I have helped for example to make patterns for pulley blocks etc..

I am not up printing cad on computer . That is above my skill base. Just the old way.

Please let me know ion this is of interest..

A wonderful place you have here.. All the best who sail here.






Regards
JohnD
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Hi John,
Welcome aboard from you down-under neighbour. Hope you enjoy the forums.
Cheers,
Steve
 
Welcome! Your expertise with jewelry making would fill somewhat of a void in here. When I run up against a challenge trying to fabricate a metal part in copper or brass, I've always found the answer in jewelry making texts, rather than ship modeling texts. ;)

I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on drawplates. Yes, some are used for wood, but, from what I've been able to ascertain, there are two distinct types of drawplates, one type for metal and one type for wood. Under some circumstances, the types may be interchangeable, and I've never seen drawplates marketed expressly for wood. (There is also a wooden drawplate for jewelry chain, I believe. I don't know how that works or if it would have any application in ship modeling.)

As I understand it, the metal (wire) drawplate has holes that are larger on one side than on the other, in section being cone-shaped or having a rounded countersunk edge at one end of the holes. An annealed metal workpiece is inserted into the larger side of the metal drawplate and pulled through the smaller end of the hole. The diameter of the workpiece is reduced as the workpiece is pulled through successively smaller diameter holes. This process, and the cone shape of the holes causes the metal workpiece to be compressed and stretched as it is pulled thorough the hole, such that no material is removed from the workpiece, but rather the workpiece is worked to become progressively thinner and longer.

The drawplate for wood works differently, essentially as a scraper that removes material from the workpiece. The wood drawplate, as I understand it, has holes with sharp edges which scrape off wood from the workpiece as it is drawn through the hole. To achieve this result, I have sanded my two low-quality larger diameter metal drawplates flat by sanding the "small hole face" of the plates to create a sharp hole edge on the side without the wider entry. I then use these plates for both, with metal being drawn in one direction through the plate and wood being shaved by being pulled through the plate from the other direction.

I have never been able to confirm the accuracy of my understanding, which has been based on bits and pieces of information, none of which appeared to be the least bit authoritative. I do know my technique works, but I would like to know if there actually is a metal drawplate for shaving wooden workpieces, or not.
 
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