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NRG 3D Cannon Files

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The National Research Guild advertises that members can download and print a full suite of cannon types. I don't have an NRG memberships, and already have quite a few cannon STL files, but would be willing to come up with the $40 to gets ones I don't have, if there are a good many.

Can anyone list what categories, nationalities, etc. (as specific as possible - hopefully by copying an on-screen listing) of what they have available, so I can make a decision? I'm not asking for the STL/3D files, just a listing of what's available.

Many thanks!
 
I have the originals from when Ron Thibault and I did that project. I also have a lot of the carriages in 2D as they changed as much as the cannon patterns over the years. Jaager probably has the lot of them but feel free to PM/DM me if he is missing any.
Allan
 
I was looking for information on French guns. The listing Allan DM'd me had no French guns it it, so I can save that memberships $$.
 
I am working on a project of a 44 gun ship built in 1744 and sank in 1748. A couple of her cannons have been recovered. The problem.....
They do not look like what I expected. As the ship was launched in 1744 I fully expected to see Armstrong guns. There is no way these can be mistaken for Armstrongs as there is a rose and crown cypher and no ring around the button. It does have a chase astragal ring so could be a Borgard pattern gun but I am pretty sure the Borgards had George I cyphers. I have to go back to the Commonwealth pattern to see the rose and crown cypher but they had four rings, not five from what I could find. I believe there were many variations from foundry to foundry just like from shipyard to shipyard, but if anyone has more information on what pattern this actually is, that would be great. The cypher can be seen below. If these are indeed Commonwealth pattern guns, it says something about how the RN used old armament designs on new ships when necessary.
Allan

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Was this cannon damaged in any way? Discarded cannon were often used as ballast. Google says the latest Tudor rose cyphers were placed on cannon in the early 1700s by William Benge armory. There certainly were differences from one armory to another, as shown on the French pics I sent you.
 
There does not appear to be damage to any of the cannon recovered. There are a couple more that have been found and may be recovered at some point. I will be asking the archeologists that are still diving on the wreck to see if they can determine if the cypher is the same or different. Your point of this being ballast has merit but the amount of kentledge they have found is substantial and is not in the area of the cannon. Then again kentledge was not always used alone until later in the 18th century so your idea is a good one. Thanks.
Allan
 
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More information...... The cannon recovered were still laying near or, in at least one case, in/on the gun port. The gun ports are in surprisingly good condition with the sills still easy to see. The recovered cannon were nowhere near the kentledge piles so the archeologists are convinced they were not ballast. My main contact has excavated vessels with cannons in ballast (La Concorde/Queen Anne's Revenge in North Carolina) and those being ballast are very apparent as they are stacked muzzle to cascabel and side by side. The team dove on the Fowey wreck again last week and sent me the attached photos. It is hard to see, but there is no ballast anywhere near any of these guns. The first picture is an 18 pounder and the second and third are of one of the 9 pounders. There is unfortunately no way to see the cypher while they lie in situ. The 18 pounder appears to be an 8 footer, being 8.85 feet long which fits with Commonwealth cannon pattern gun drawings in The History of English Sea Ordnance by Caruana. I hope to measure one of the previously recovered and cleaned nine pounders at the museum on my next visit to their offices.

Allan
18 pounder Commonwealth pattern gun from Caruana
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Half buried 9 pounder
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18 pounder first pic
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18 pounder different view
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