ProModel ADMIRAL USHAKOW 1/200

[Iterum]

Dear friends,

the hobby has got me back - starting with a medium difficulty kit (2 of 3 Points) by ProModel from the year 2000 bringing 806 parts onto the brench - and at it's best: he model can be build as WL or with UWS. Due to my fear of overusing my person's parts again I do tend to build WL getting some 420mm of length and nice shape at all:

Giving a very nice size for my small flat, so I am able to display her well and handle her during the process of building. To be honest the model is a humbly restart after some 15years (as I fed the last trial to the open fire place).
As I am far away from my old skills I stopped the temptation AKERBOOM 1664
not to risk what is already archived!


(All the pictures are from the same source: onlypaper.ru)

I very much like these colourfull but small coastal battleships from the pre-Dreadnought period in their partly wooden surface (wheelhouse) and b/w-Baltic colour sheme:


As I did play naval tabletop 20years ago with the 1/780 Scratch Models (from balsa and paper) of the free WTJ Game "Battlefleet 1900" I liked this Trio a formiable force to punch and keep the fight anyway.
After some time of break to the hobby by illnesses, therapies, and rehabilitations I decided to do my "comeback" on a kit I know from my intensive work with the Imperial Russian Navy - and I found a lot of pictures on this old HDD.


The original ship yard model at Sankt Petersburg Naval Museum shows a completly unfamiliar big number of slim windows in the wheelhouse and an interesting colour sheme of a light horizon blue Paint on the two masts. The elegant swan neck davits are already installed. Does anybody know If the UWL's red is faded or was this light piggy pink in original?

But as I am still in search for my bodies limit these Russian built trio of the ADMIRAL USHAKOW class from 1895 will be the substitute to get anything at all done.

For those in here being interested in the differences between the three sisters here an old shortcut for Naval Tabletop:
The cyrillic C stands for the latin S so it is ADMIRAL SENJAVIN clearly (also she has two more windows in her wheelhouse);

the cyrillic letter A pointed onto GENERAL ADMIRAL APRAKSIN absolutely - the other way to distingishing her ist to look for her single barreled turret before stern;

and the second Admiral must by this logic certainly be USHAKOW:



But back to modelbuilders ' intrests: by starting with this simpler kit of ADMIRAL USHAKOW with 806 parts (minus UWS die to the WL built); so I would like to step up complexity towards her sister GENERAL-ADMIRAL APRAKSIN by Orel Publishing with some 1200 parts and aiming for ADMIRAL SENJAVIN by a younger Orel kit ending in a brutal some 1400 part battlefield of card and a photo-etched sheet of brass.

So let us walk from the sideview downwards thought the decks to meet the detailings we do long for so much - here at ADMIRAL SENJAVIN as an example:

The number of boats is typical one due to landing operations part of the usual drill and tactics.

The side torpedo Tubes are above the CWL so there hast to be a kind of hatch or opening in the hull's side.


If there is from your side any intrest towards the ship's history please feel free to ask. I would usually like to deal with the building history and some technical details that may be of intrest (inside of the text's progress at all).

Here ADM.USHAKOW**seems to use the old admirality anchor working on a single capstan - this interesting feature isn't uncommon to Russian battleships (before BORODINO). I cannot see any wedged hullpart for the anchor run down into the water.

Uuuupppppppppssss...
Beware of temptation!

Due to my lack of eyesight, concentration skills, and hand control I will try to bring this cardboardkit by ProModel to the finish line as close to the original kit as I could responsibly doing it. (Certainly I do dream of a 1/64 scratchbuild in card, plastic, and paper - but this is a hard road to travel and may be happen later on.)


Due to our identification chart above this is GEN.ADM.APRAKSIN to be identifyed by the yard's position above the searchlights and the number of wheelhouse's windows: five!


Here ADM.USHAKOW in a side view interestingly the modern anchors are aboard.

Hope you do like this little

cardboard battleship project without any baroque pomp and circumstances I can not manage recently.


Best wishes from Berlin, Christian

** it isn't ADMIRAL USHAKOW class ship at all - look at the wing turrets!

 

[Bryian]

Love these old pre dreadnought ships. They are not a common topic for ship modellers to build.

 

[Iterum]

Love these old pre dreadnought ships. They are not a common topic for ship modellers to build.

Yes they are a part of the forgotten links between Trafalgar and Jutland - like these Steam&Sail ships by Reed from the Era of Uncertainy...

 

[Peter Voogt]

Dear friends,

the hobby has got me back - starting with a medium difficulty kit (2 of 3 Points) by ProModel from the year 2000 bringing 806 parts onto the brench - and at it's best: he model can be build as WL or with UWS. Due to my fear of overusing my person's parts again I do tend to build WL getting some 420mm of length and nice shape at all:
View attachment 466772
Giving a very nice size for my small flat, so I am able to display her well and handle her during the process of building. To be honest the model is a humbly restart after some 15years (as I fed the last trial to the open fire place).
As I am far away from my old skills I stopped the temptation AKERBOOM 1664
not to risk what is already archived!

View attachment 466769
(All the pictures are from the same source: onlypaper.ru)

I very much like these colourfull but small coastal battleships from the pre-Dreadnought period in their partly wooden surface (wheelhouse) and b/w-Baltic colour sheme:
View attachment 466773

As I did play naval tabletop 20years ago with the 1/780 Scratch Models (from balsa and paper) of the free WTJ Game "Battlefleet 1900" I liked this Trio a formiable force to punch and keep the fight anyway.
After some time of break to the hobby by illnesses, therapies, and rehabilitations I decided to do my "comeback" on a kit I know from my intensive work with the Imperial Russian Navy - and I found a lot of pictures on this old HDD.

View attachment 466770
The original ship yard model at Sankt Petersburg Naval Museum shows a completly unfamiliar big number of slim windows in the wheelhouse and an interesting colour sheme of a light horizon blue Paint on the two masts. The elegant swan neck davits are already installed. Does anybody know If the UWL's red is faded or was this light piggy pink in original?

But as I am still in search for my bodies limit these Russian built trio of the ADMIRAL USHAKOW class from 1895 will be the substitute to get anything at all done.

For those in here being interested in the differences between the three sisters here an old shortcut for Naval Tabletop:
The cyrillic C stands for the latin S so it is ADMIRAL SENJAVIN clearly (also she has two more windows in her wheelhouse);

the cyrillic letter A pointed onto GENERAL ADMIRAL APRAKSIN absolutely - the other way to distingishing her ist to look for her single barreled turret before stern;

and the second Admiral must by this logic certainly be USHAKOW:

View attachment 466778

But back to modelbuilders ' intrests: by starting with this simpler kit of ADMIRAL USHAKOW with 806 parts (minus UWS die to the WL built); so I would like to step up complexity towards her sister GENERAL-ADMIRAL APRAKSIN by Orel Publishing with some 1200 parts and aiming for ADMIRAL SENJAVIN by a younger Orel kit ending in a brutal some 1400 part battlefield of card and a photo-etched sheet of brass.

So let us walk from the sideview downwards thought the decks to meet the detailings we do long for so much - here at ADMIRAL SENJAVIN as an example:
View attachment 466775
The number of boats is typical one due to landing operations part of the usual drill and tactics.
View attachment 466776
The side torpedo Tubes are above the CWL so there hast to be a kind of hatch or opening in the hull's side.
View attachment 466777

If there is from your side any intrest towards the ship's history please feel free to ask. I would usually like to deal with the building history and some technical details that may be of intrest (inside of the text's progress at all).
View attachment 466780
Here ADM.USHAKOW seems to use the old admirality anchor working on a single capstan - this interesting feature isn't uncommon to Russian battleships (before BORODINO). I cannot see any wedged hullpart for the anchor run down into the water.

Uuuupppppppppssss...
Beware of temptation!

Due to my lack of eyesight, concentration skills, and hand control I will try to bring this cardboardkit by ProModel to the finish line as close to the original kit as I could responsibly doing it. (Certainly I do dream of a 1/64 scratchbuild in card, plastic, and paper - but this is a hard road to travel and may be happen later on.)

View attachment 466779
Due to our identification chart above this is GEN.ADM.APRAKSIN to be identifyed by the yard's position above the searchlights and the number of wheelhouse's windows: five!

View attachment 466774
Here ADM.USHAKOW in a side view interestingly the modern anchors are aboard.

Hope you do like this little
View attachment 466771
cardboard battleship project without any baroque pomp and circumstances I can not manage recently.


Best wishes from Berlin, Christian

Very interesting to follow your build of this card model, Christian. Hopefully you get your model building pleasure back after all those years.
Regards, Peter

 

[Iterum]

Hello Friends, there are only four sheets of DIN A3 size plus the LC -parts - thats all:

Here the UWS and details plus flags...


...the boats and the very regulary coloured citardel and aft deck. The colour of the funnels does look very nice to me...


...the foredeck and flying Bridge as the hull and main turrets (254mms) tops. The fourth Sheet is the skeletons one WE do come to when comparing it to it's LC-parts...


...and these bulleyes are very finely done. I am not sure if the parts 53 will look thick enough compared to the original:


By the way there is a little bit of neo-baroque carved work to do between anchor hole and torpedotube at stem:


And the art work is individual:


above ADMIRAL APRAKSIN
below ADMIRAL USHAKOW:

So fore ADMIRAL SENJAVIN it will be to be figured out what it looked like.

 

[Iterum]

Very interesting to follow your build of this card model, Christian. Hopefully you get your model building pleasure back after all those years.
Regards, Peter

Thanks you very much, Peter, I will do small steps by this hopefully it is going to be better to do progress. Instead of hurrying foreward and falling down again and again.

Personal Edit 29.VIII.'24:
And I am very happy not to have completly destroyed my AKERBOOM hull parts due to the deep anger, not being as accurate, precise, and "finescaly" as I was able to built before the stroke...

 

[Iterum]

Hello my dear Friends! Dealing with details in old photographs I figured out there is a lot of interesting small Stuff to build I did not recognize till now:


As this staircase cover aft GENERAL-ADMIRAL APRAKSIN's turret.

 

[The learner]

Lot of detail! Good luck.

 

[Iterum]

Hello Friends, today the new model yard place is nearly rebuilt - this night it will be ready! Than I can upload some pictures for you - now here the edition N°2:



Yes now we have got enough light to build but not a single idea where to place (let's call it) camera for "YTing" propperly???

 

[Iterum]

Hello Friends, here is the time table for the next builds:

Starting with a 1:200 series These are Pro-Model's ADMIRAL USHAKOW (Kit and LC-hull),
then Orel's GENERAL-ADMIRAL APRAKSIN (kit, LChull, details)
twice ADMIRAL USHAKOW (kit); after the class is completed - I want to start my WMC printed 1855 steam gunboat STERLIAD halfing the scale to 1:100 - with LC-hull and fabric-sails.

 

[Dart]

Apracsin

 

[Dart]

USHAKOW

 

[Dart]

SENJAVIN+

 

[Bryian]

I love these old pre dreadnought ships. Seems to be several models in 3d printed resin available now like this ship.

 

[Iterum]

[TESTING DANGEROUS TECHNIQUES OF CUTTING A FULL HULL INTO HALF

I tried some technoques I thought they could destroy the ADMIRAL USHAKOW in a first step with



my old SISSOY VELIKY kit in 1/200 - as both kits will be build as WLmodels:

So by brutally cutting down the CenterLine-board to the CWL the structure does become suddenly astonishingly seperated and by this absoloutly instabile - not only fragile!



So I certainly had to cut the bulkheads also down to the CWL {Point of No Return} and by this got pairs of half remembering minus CL-board width parts I had to deal with.

Due to this I needed a break to get some fresh ideas how to fix this annoying problem:


To fill my time I decided to weather the decks' planking by usage of watercolour pencils* first to imitate the usage in the Pacific with it's high waves:

As a "testsite" it does work and'll do it's job - hopefully.

I decided to build SISSOY VELIKY in battle:



By having a second kit of her in my pile I'll try to change her into

the beautyfull Pacific White during the years 1902-04 - admitting I really do love the anchor.

To place the bulkheads and CL-parts in place in my desparation I did use paper stripes folded in angle and it really does work:


Here the second part of glueing the hull's structure in more detail - here the white "edge-slips" are more prominent - hopefully you can See them under and beside the clothing clamps:


I also ordered in between square {and cylindrical} cuts of bronze to keep the parts in position and I can place the square pieces of 140g-paper to bring them in the exact position - the UHUglue does not do any harm to them and isn't a too good bond to their smooth surface. It is an annoyingly complex act to place the parts dealing with two light spots - but it look right to me.

And certraily it is very good to know what at the ADMIRAL USHAKOV will happen and having archived a first solution how to fix it:

So this test squence is coming in here from time to time showing results - by this without endanger my ADMIRAL USHAKOW kit.]
__________
*bought too cheap - the lead is broken in the unused pencils.

 

[Iterum]

I love these old pre dreadnought ships. Seems to be several models in 3d printed resin available now like this ship.

All 3-D printed figures (rabbits, sheeps) for my O-9 railway project were destroyed and looked like melted after two years in an enclosed box. Due to this I am very sceptical to resin print solutions...

 

[Iterum]

To do list:
- weathering the deck's planking

- measurement of the bulleys (replacement by PE & foil?
I ordered a set of brass pipes for bulleye punching

Hopefully the diameters are the needed ones...)

- numbering all LC-parts before cutting on the used part of cardboard - s.th. like this

- cutting down CLboard and bulkheads to CWL for WLbuilt

 

[Dillan2515]

Dear friends,

the hobby has got me back - starting with a medium difficulty kit (2 of 3 Points) by ProModel from the year 2000 bringing 806 parts onto the brench - and at it's best: he model can be build as WL or with UWS. Due to my fear of overusing my person's parts again I do tend to build WL getting some 420mm of length and nice shape at all:
View attachment 466772
Giving a very nice size for my small flat, so I am able to display her well and handle her during the process of building. To be honest the model is a humbly restart after some 15years (as I fed the last trial to the open fire place).
As I am far away from my old skills I stopped the temptation AKERBOOM 1664
not to risk what is already archived!

View attachment 466769
(All the pictures are from the same source: onlypaper.ru)

I very much like these colourfull but small coastal battleships from the pre-Dreadnought period in their partly wooden surface (wheelhouse) and b/w-Baltic colour sheme:
View attachment 466773

As I did play naval tabletop 20years ago with the 1/780 Scratch Models (from balsa and paper) of the free WTJ Game "Battlefleet 1900" I liked this Trio a formiable force to punch and keep the fight anyway.
After some time of break to the hobby by illnesses, therapies, and rehabilitations I decided to do my "comeback" on a kit I know from my intensive work with the Imperial Russian Navy - and I found a lot of pictures on this old HDD.

View attachment 466770
The original ship yard model at Sankt Petersburg Naval Museum shows a completly unfamiliar big number of slim windows in the wheelhouse and an interesting colour sheme of a light horizon blue Paint on the two masts. The elegant swan neck davits are already installed. Does anybody know If the UWL's red is faded or was this light piggy pink in original?

But as I am still in search for my bodies limit these Russian built trio of the ADMIRAL USHAKOW class from 1895 will be the substitute to get anything at all done.

For those in here being interested in the differences between the three sisters here an old shortcut for Naval Tabletop:
The cyrillic C stands for the latin S so it is ADMIRAL SENJAVIN clearly (also she has two more windows in her wheelhouse);

the cyrillic letter A pointed onto GENERAL ADMIRAL APRAKSIN absolutely - the other way to distingishing her ist to look for her single barreled turret before stern;

and the second Admiral must by this logic certainly be USHAKOW:

View attachment 466778

But back to modelbuilders ' intrests: by starting with this simpler kit of ADMIRAL USHAKOW with 806 parts (minus UWS die to the WL built); so I would like to step up complexity towards her sister GENERAL-ADMIRAL APRAKSIN by Orel Publishing with some 1200 parts and aiming for ADMIRAL SENJAVIN by a younger Orel kit ending in a brutal some 1400 part battlefield of card and a photo-etched sheet of brass.

So let us walk from the sideview downwards thought the decks to meet the detailings we do long for so much - here at ADMIRAL SENJAVIN as an example:
View attachment 466775
The number of boats is typical one due to landing operations part of the usual drill and tactics.
View attachment 466776
The side torpedo Tubes are above the CWL so there hast to be a kind of hatch or opening in the hull's side.
View attachment 466777

If there is from your side any intrest towards the ship's history please feel free to ask. I would usually like to deal with the building history and some technical details that may be of intrest (inside of the text's progress at all).
View attachment 466780
Here ADM.USHAKOW**seems to use the old admirality anchor working on a single capstan - this interesting feature isn't uncommon to Russian battleships (before BORODINO). I cannot see any wedged hullpart for the anchor run down into the water.

Uuuupppppppppssss...
Beware of temptation!

Due to my lack of eyesight, concentration skills, and hand control I will try to bring this cardboardkit by ProModel to the finish line as close to the original kit as I could responsibly doing it. (Certainly I do dream of a 1/64 scratchbuild in card, plastic, and paper - but this is a hard road to travel and may be happen later on.)

View attachment 466779
Due to our identification chart above this is GEN.ADM.APRAKSIN to be identifyed by the yard's position above the searchlights and the number of wheelhouse's windows: five!

View attachment 466774
Here ADM.USHAKOW in a side view interestingly the modern anchors are aboard.

Hope you do like this little
View attachment 466771
cardboard battleship project without any baroque pomp and circumstances I can not manage recently.

The ProModel Admiral Ushakow 1:200 looks like an impressive project for anyone interested in detailed ship modeling. I've seen some fantastic builds of this kit, and the level of accuracy it offers is exceptional. If you're looking for some inspiration or extra gear to help with your build, I recently came across a site that has some interesting items for enthusiasts – check out this link https://bloodycase.com/dota2 It could be worth exploring for additional tools or even just for some unique ideas related to customization. Keep up the great work, everyone!
Best wishes from Berlin, Christian

** it isn't ADMIRAL USHAKOW class ship at all - look at the wing turrets!

Great.

 

[Bryian]

Excellent work.

 

[Alan Smith]

I ordered a set of brass pipes for bulleye punching

I discovered many years ago that a cheap car radio aerial of the old telescopic kind is a cheap way of getting quite a lot of sizes of thin brass tube.