Revell 1/96 Connie, transom and glue for gun deck carriages

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11320 Titanic

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On the first Connie I built (wrecked by the cat) the gun carriages were glued onto a Scale Deck, I used Alene's Glue, and had a problem with the gun carriages working loose. I am doing a Connie from a kit a buddy gave me, and am using an HIS gun deck, sprayed with a coat of lacquer...any suggestions for the glue?
The Revell model is not exact, it is a representation of the Connie, and the transom that came with the kit seems a little ornate for a war ship. I am inclined to do both bow sprit and transom in white, instead of the colors suggested in the directions. Any comments or ideas on that?
Also, touching up the paint on the hull, which would be better, semi gloss or flat black?
 
I'm not sure what glue will stick to lacquered plastic except for CA glue. Perhaps the Testor's plastic model cement can cut through the lacquer, so test it. As for the piant, you may have to mix flat and semi-gloss to get and exact match, but the finish probably leans toward semi gloss.
 
11320 Titanic said:
On the first Connie I built (wrecked by the cat) the gun carriages were glued onto a Scale Deck, I used Alene's Glue, and had a problem with the gun carriages working loose. I am doing a Connie from a kit a buddy gave me, and am using an HIS gun deck, sprayed with a coat of lacquer...any suggestions for the glue?
The Revell model is not exact, it is a representation of the Connie, and the transom that came with the kit seems a little ornate for a war ship. I am inclined to do both bow sprit and transom in white, instead of the colors suggested in the directions. Any comments or ideas on that?
Also, touching up the paint on the hull, which would be better, semi gloss or flat black?
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The Revell USS Constitution actually does look like the ship albeit in 1924. If you want her as she appeared in 1812, get the Bluejacket kit. The Model Shipways kit represents the ship as she appeared after her last refit in 1996. And the Revell 1/192 kit depicts her in the mid to late 1830s. She also had different transoms throughout her life. I suppose that I am saying that you should do your research. You'll find that a given ship's appearance at a particular time is probably more accurate than you believe. Beer:)

Bill
 
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WilliamM said:
One other thing . . . Check out HisModel's USS Constitution transom for the kit. It might be that of which you are looking.

Bill
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Thanks, those look good. I have rescued HIS' brass guns and carriages from the spar deck of the wrecked Connie to use on this one, will save some time, now taking off the long guns from the gun deck.
 
1st image, gun deck in and captain's quarters with gardener's velcro used to clamp the hull. ( I'll use velcro where I can as it is easily adjustable and a lot less inclined to leave marks than clamps and can be reused countless times), 2nd image, guns in and ready to rig,3rd image trial fit of spar deck, 4th image also of trial fit of spar deck, 5th image, some of the damage done by "Pepper", our former cat, spar deck guns lined up on spar deck shows barrels knocked off, one broken carriage, spar deck is not glued in yet, as some minor work yet needed to complete gun deck installation.
Compared to the Peabody museum's model, some differences.
Seems to be coming along better than I thought it would.
That decking id from HIS.
 
11320 Titanic said:
Thanks, those look good. I have rescued HIS' brass guns and carriages from the spar deck of the wrecked Connie to use on this one, will save some time, now taking off the long guns from the gun deck.
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Wrecked Connie? USS Constitution was never wrecked. She is currently on display in Boston. She serves on active duty as the flagship of the First Naval District. By the way, she was never called "Connie" but as "Constitution".

Bill
 
WilliamM said:
Wrecked Connie? USS Constitution was never wrecked. She is currently on display in Boston. She serves on active duty as the flagship of the First Naval District. By the way, she was never called "Connie" but as "Constitution".

Bill
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The wrecked "Connie" was a previous build I did that our former cat, "Pepper" destroyed, I am using a kit that was given to me, has parts missing, so I am salvaging parts that were missing or broken. Being lazy and hating typing, I shortened her name to Connie.
 
I have glued in the guns on the gun deck,using Gorilla Glue and it seems to doing just fine. The HIS spar decking is on the spar deck and I used Elmer's Carpenters Wood glue for that, sloppy to put on but seems to be holding will use The Gorilla Glue for the spar deck guns and Testors for the pivots on those guns. I got a few stains on the spar deck, forgot to spray with Testors dull lacquer before gluing the spar deck, but they are small stains so I will cover them with crew men after.
 
WilliamM said:
Thanks for explaining it to me. I apologize for the confusion.

Bill
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My fault. I did a "Connie" 60 years ago, and was having trouble finding the rigging diagrams, so my brother and I took our little Kodak camera, and using slide film, visited the Connie and climbed the three masts taking pictures of the rigging before anyone spotted us. We got trapped on the bow sprit and hauled off to CO, who after reviewing the film (They developed it, I think they thought we a nefarious duo of characters), and hearing our intentions, brought us to the museum for a copy of rigging plans, which we purchased, then told us we were banned from the ship!, and we got a spiel then sent home. I love that ship! And have been on it several times since, so the ban must have been temporary.
Too bad we get older, and know better!
 
11320 Titanic said:
My fault. I did a "Connie" 60 years ago, and was having trouble finding the rigging diagrams, so my brother and I took our little Kodak camera, and using slide film, visited the Connie and climbed the three masts taking pictures of the rigging before anyone spotted us. We got trapped on the bow sprit and hauled off to CO, who after reviewing the film (They developed it, I think they thought we a nefarious duo of characters), and hearing our intentions, brought us to the museum for a copy of rigging plans, which we purchased, then told us we were banned from the ship!, and we got a spiel then sent home. I love that ship! And have been on it several times since, so the ban must have been temporary.
Too bad we get older, and know better!
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WOW! What a story!
 
When the ship was in port with furled sails and ready to sail, would the studding sail booms have sails at departure, or were they put out after leaving port? The masts look a little barren so I plan on having furled sails on her.
 
11320 Titanic said:
On the first Connie I built (wrecked by the cat) the gun carriages were glued onto a Scale Deck, I used Alene's Glue, and had a problem with the gun carriages working loose. I am doing a Connie from a kit a buddy gave me, and am using an HIS gun deck, sprayed with a coat of lacquer...any suggestions for the glue?
The Revell model is not exact, it is a representation of the Connie, and the transom that came with the kit seems a little ornate for a war ship. I am inclined to do both bow sprit and transom in white, instead of the colors suggested in the directions. Any comments or ideas on that?
Also, touching up the paint on the hull, which would be better, semi gloss or flat black?
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Where in New England? I'm in South Eastern Connecticut.

Bill
 
True enough. We have eight lakes and ponds in the immediate vicinity of my home as well as one river and the Atlantic Ocean. The fishing is great! And the U.S. Naval Submarine Base Groton, New London is very close by as well. I did three boats out of there in my career!

Bill
 
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