Scratch 1/64 STERLYAD Russ. Gunboat 1855

[Iterum]

Dear Friends,

on my way back to AKERBOOM 1664 I decided to go over a small row of cardmodels to become more experinced to the used materials and needed skills.

I found a Russian gunboat of 38 meters from the year 1855 armed with three guns sailed by two gaff masts with an early steam engine for purpolsion. The hull is very strangely zinc-plated...

My set of plans by the Admirality Publishers isn't that detailled:


You do get in there (Here my allready enlarged drawings from 1:100 up to 1/64) this:

A WLplan
a CL-cut
three sides of the anchor
and...

a formers' plan (here my mirrowed version)



Then the rigg- and sailplan
side view all in one

and the decks' plan as a top view.

Surley missed are further importand details as
- the steering mechanism
- the guns
- details of the staircases
- anything about the two launches

As I do own the booklet Guns of the Paddle Wheeler WLADIMIR
EDIT: Collection of Guns of the Crimean War so I was able to find some more detailled drawings about the 18-pounder gun and her carriage and pivot:



So I am starting this article to collect all the available data and to keep an eye in here.


I am very happy about the enclosed deck as I am ery affraid of building formers and planking in cardboard recently.


To add further details I bought the 1:100 kit of STERLYAD by W.M.C. and got the knowledge as the inner bulkheads we're painted dark green:

Hopefully someone like @Winter may have some deeper information to this small beauty from the Czarist Navy?

Hopefully you do enjoy this small journey into the "Era of Uncertainy" the time slot between purely sail and steam powered ships.

 

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This afternoon I copied my Idea from the 34-foot steam launch and started to add the bulkheads' lines to the drawing
by this I do get the layers of WL filling pieces over the hole length:

A big problem ist the inaccuracy of the main former:

I'll have to fix on every involved drawing.

Here the basic idea of the filling pieces at the CWL-layer:

 

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I wasn't able to fine any further information about the two launches of STERLYAD in the plan:

So I will try to find something simelar in the other plansets I do have got - here the side view:


EDIT:
Astonishingly the launches on the other drawings do give to us:

a much slimer type of boat.

So what is the right Type of boat here historically?

 

[Jimsky]

Here is some images, Chris/

 

[Bryian]

Thats an interesting project. I love this.

 

[Iterum]

Here is some images, Chris/
(...)

Thanks a lot that is really helpfull, Jimsky!!!

Very interestingly the gun boat isn't able to chease fire from the A-position at point blank:

And the stem is very much simpler than I thought.
I have to study these pictures for a longer time and very intensive. They are really such a great help.

 

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I wasn't able to fine any further information about the two launches of STERLYAD in the plan:
View attachment 479708
So I will try to find something simelar in the other plansets I do have got - here the side view:
View attachment 479709

EDIT:
Astonishingly the launches on the other drawings do give to us:
View attachment 479710
a much slimer type of boat.

So what is the right Type of boat here historically?

Due to Jimsky's drawings I have to deal with a pair of whale boats:



And I do remember there was a drawing with RUSALKA and SISSOY VELIKY about whale boats.

 

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Today I was able to enlarge a six-oared Whaler's drawings from RUSALKA 1867 - therteen years after - STERLYAD from 1:100 to 1/64 by 156% enlargement:


So here my question to the specialists of the Czarist Russian Navy:

Is this a realistic/the right Whaler for a gun boat of 1855 to "decorate" the davits?
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Thank you very much for your kind interest and all the likes.

 

[John Mitchell]

You commented that the gun will not be able to chase fire from the "A" position. Since ships cannot sail directly into the wind, and the chase ship would seek the weather gauge, (remaining up wind from its prey), it is unlikely it would ever be firing straight ahead. Anyway, the forestays, and jib stays would be in the way for straight ahead fire. So the position of the bits in front of the forward gun is not an oversight.

 

[Hermies]

That’s interesting! Project. To read and see.
Want to know:
Mistakes
Thinking
Overcame
Use of materials
Sequencing
Finishing techniques.

Side issue - scaling to a point with these models.

Used card to make a truck - mind bending. On off and 2 years .. made 2 Jerry cans and still unhappy! Wheels - 60% then discarded on my 15th wheel.
It is certainly an art of material handling for me.

 

[Dart]

So what is the right Type of boat here historically?

Whaleboat

 

[Dart]

Is this a realistic/the right Whaler for a gun boat of 1855 to "decorate" the davits?

No. A five-oared whaleboat

 

[Iterum]

Thank you very much!!!

 

[Iterum]

That’s interesting! Project. To read and see.
Want to know:
Mistakes
Thinking
Overcame
Use of materials
Sequencing
Finishing techniques.

Side issue - scaling to a point with these models.

Used card to make a truck - mind bending. On off and 2 years .. made 2 Jerry cans and still unhappy! Wheels - 60% then discarded on my 15th wheel.
It is certainly an art of material handling for me.

There have been a plenty of mistakes - at first the 1/200 scale doesn't really do Work for me and my bad eyesight. I had to change to the upscaled scratch model as my knowledge of 1/64 is it does work better with my clumbsy fingers.

Material ist simply bookbinders cardboard of 2mm (1/10inch?) thickness, I do use photocopies glued onto it and a sharp knife to Scratch the cutlines along a simple brass pice. I like to work with a 2mm square "bar" - so I do have got the correct thickness of the used material in my work flow at all. What I really do like is how easy this new idea fits into my processes and how exact my results suddenly do become.

The finishing techniques are not thought about - I do recently "do break my head" about the breastwork and how to form it into place.

When adding superglue to the cardboard you can sand it like plastic or wood. The other Point is to remember the very first modelling tip I ever got: "Use little glue - nearly no glue at all - it all Bonds together by it self!''
From my time with Tamya I do remember that these jerrycans are troublesome features but often damaged by daily use - so it's onto you to copy this stress...
I cannot delivery any ideas for the cardboard truck, sorry for this!

 

[iutar]

Hi Chris!
Russian 5-oared whale boat




Some details here may be interesting, but the boat itself is not right for you.