Sloops and boats for Dutch ships

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Hello again Mr. Hoving. It seems kolderstok does not have a timeline that includes a Dutch sloop or boat. Are you aware of any resource for a 17th century support vessel that would assist me with a scratch build? I do have your 3D renderings. I guess I’m looking for something on paper that I could scale. Thanks for any advise / assistance you might offer.
 

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Hello, Doc (I hope, Paul, you don't mind me call you Doc) :cool: Have you ever consider the "17th CENTURY DUTCH MERCHANT SHIPS" by Ab? This book consists of 152 pages, case bound with jacket, full color, 24 sheets of plans in a portfolio. It is available from Sea Watch Books


simple page from the book, courtesy of Sea Watch Books

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Wonderful Jim! While I will certainly order this book - what I am looking for is plans for a chaloup or boot. Something that will guide me in this direction:

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If I survive the construction of the mother ship - I was thinking it would be nice to add a ship's boat as an after-party...
 
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Hello Paul,
I made a lines plan for you out of the 3D reconstruction, which I hope helps you out.
You will have to find out the scale of the body plan in accordance to the elevation and topview, but I think you can manage by comparing the distances between the waterlines.
I also did a sequence for the build. I hope all is clear.
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Stage 1: flat bottom, stem and stern
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Fase 1a: filling pieces in the bow, seen from below.
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fase 2: reinforcement of the bottom
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fase 3: clinker planking
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fase 4: adding the frame parts.
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fase 5: adding the wales and filling strakes
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Fase 6: inserting floor panels, deck clamps and windlass. You can pick your own length for the boat and add benches to your need.
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Don't forget the leeboards (like I did:))
To the right a detail of the stem with a sheave for leading a rope.

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Good luck,
Ab
 
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As I was building the model of Duyfken some 10 years ago from scratch on the drawings of the replica, built in Fremantle (no kit existed then as yet) I received a drawing of a sloop from the marine architect of the replica, Nick Burningham, on the basis of which I made the model of it. Interesting to know why the Duyfken replica does not have her boat even today. It was apparently ordered from Indonesia at the time of the replica building but because of some misunderstanding the Indonesians built and sent a traditional fishing boat instead. This was on display for a few years at the Sydney Maritime Museum but Duyfken hasn't got a byboat even today... (and yes, the byboats weren't called lifeboats until the 19th century).
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I WELL KNOW THE FEELING, DUE TOMY PHYSICAL CONDITION I AM LOOKING FOR QUICK BUILDS CAN NOT DO THE 2 OR 3 YEAR BUILDS ANYMORE, JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE SIZE IS IT TO SMALL TO GET THE DETAILS CORRECT. GOD BLESS STAY SAFE YOU AND YOURS DON
 
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Don't expect a build from me Donny. My scale is 1/77 and therefore I only do it the way I described in post #4. But I tried to give an image how it was done IRL with the 3D images. Nothing stops you from giving it a try yourself though. Keep me informed. :)
 
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Oh, and before I forget: the size of the boat (the flat-bottomed one) is equal to the width of the ship and the size of the sloop is 4/5 of the boat. Just FYI.
 
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