Sovereign of the Seas, a reconstruction based on Sheldon O3 design

-Waldemar- said:
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Fine. At any rate, with this grandeur of the ship, pretty much any realistic convention for making the model will probably provide work for decades.
It is good that you are cautious about investigating the correct configuration of the frames as it was variable over time. This is almost a separate, quite extensive area of knowledge.

Of the several works on the subject, a very enlightening and valuable study by John Franklin, Navy Board Ship Models 1650–1750, can be offered here. It also has the added benefit of presenting the issue in the context of the models. A must for consultation. For me personally, this is the single best monograph on Navy Board models.

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Thx Waldemar,

Directly ordered a 2nd hand copy of it, this book was nearly for free, only € 10,- incl shipping.
 
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Your welcome. However, in that case I expect you to refund some of the money, as I once had to pay the full £20 for my copy, plus postage :). Kidding.
 
DonatasBruzas said:
Another comparison. Here I tried to keep the scale by keeping the distance between the decks similar. The Sheldon's ship is in an orthographic projection, simulating a long observer's distance to the ship.

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Sorry Maarten to hichjack your topic for the greetings
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we wish you all the BEST and a HAPPY BIRTHDAY
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i am deeply interest in this ship , so much that i brough both mantua and deagostini models , i am currently working on 3d print for the ornements , i will be happy to have sugestions about them ,any piece of archives etc, so that i can finalise every little ornements and have them done for all lovers of this sexy lady
 
i leave near by spend lots of time there if you need pics of specific ship let me know , they have the sos model at the somerset house
 
Hi Maarten,

I have read through your thread with great interest. Such a vast project for you to embark on.

My interest in this great ship takes the form of a bashed Manta/Sergal kit where I am hand carving the sculptures in boxwood following the Pett, Van de Velde and Payne references. It is purely an artistic approach using my minds eye to dictate form and shape. If you have any questions about my model, you are welcome to ask although I think you are on a vastly different journey than myself and better qualified to get to the result you intend to follow.

Good luck and I will follow your journey on this ship with great interest.

Regards,
Bill
 
modelshipwright said:
Hi Maarten,

I have read through your thread with great interest. Such a vast project for you to embark on.

My interest in this great ship takes the form of a bashed Manta/Sergal kit where I am hand carving the sculptures in boxwood following the Pett, Van de Velde and Payne references. It is purely an artistic approach using my minds eye to dictate form and shape. If you have any questions about my model, you are welcome to ask although I think you are on a vastly different journey than myself and better qualified to get to the result you intend to follow.

Good luck and I will follow your journey on this ship with great interest.

Regards,
Bill
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It is important to note that the subjects in each decoration panel vary between the Pett, Van de Velde, and Payne sources, to the point where you have to choose one source as your reference. Mixing the sources is only done when I cannot distinguish what the objects in one source are. Some of the carvings are hidden by rigging and other obstructions in Payne's engraving for example, and I had to resort to interpreting a similar carving shown in another source. The painting found in the house of Samuel Pepys has MANY panels of icons different from Payne. John McKay tried to interpret and re-draw some of the icons that are harder to interpret, but had limited success. Strangely though, McKay completely changed many of the icons which are clearly depicted in both Payne AND Van de Velde. WHY?!! His interpretation of the features on the Sovereign often turn into wild fiction for no reason. It's interesting that McKay seems to see naked women in MANY of the human like figures on the Sovereign, like the carvings that appear to support the side gallery walkways and the edge details where the side planking meets the transom. He apparently sees naked women in everything... (maybe he does have a sailor's heart!)
 
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modelshipwright said:
Hi Maarten,

I have read through your thread with great interest. Such a vast project for you to embark on.

My interest in this great ship takes the form of a bashed Manta/Sergal kit where I am hand carving the sculptures in boxwood following the Pett, Van de Velde and Payne references. It is purely an artistic approach using my minds eye to dictate form and shape. If you have any questions about my model, you are welcome to ask although I think you are on a vastly different journey than myself and better qualified to get to the result you intend to follow.

Good luck and I will follow your journey on this ship with great interest.

Regards,
Bill
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Hi Bill,

For sure I know your build which is a great build.
I first started with the idea of using the Deagostini kit as a basis which I still have on the shelf.
This idea changed to build it 1:48 as a full frame model.
However until now only a project on paper
 
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