Staghound...Extreme clipper 1850 by rwiederrich 1/96

Peter Gutterman · Monday at 9:36 PM

My "indeed!" was purely a commentary of agreement and experience on the amount of "pre- planning" involved. Even so the result is always a moving target. I lost count of the number of times I had to re-do my deadeyes and chains, having first followed the plans.

ClipperFan · Monday at 10:41 PM

Peter Gutterman said:
My "indeed!" was purely a commentary of agreement and experience on the amount of "pre- planning" involved. Even so the result is always a moving target. I lost count of the number of times I had to re-do my deadeyes and chains, having first followed the plans.

Peter,
I have great respect for Rob and all fellow innovative scratch and kit building modelers. So, I want to make it abundantly clear that it's not my intention at all to belittle anyone's talent or their abilities. I haven't built a model for decades so it would be presumptive and rude to criticize other's efforts when I haven't done anything for so long myself. My goal is to facilitate these builds by providing the most accurate plans through thorough research.

Peter Gutterman · Monday at 10:50 PM

Cool,..

rwiederrich · Tuesday at 7:03 AM

ClipperFan said:
Rob, just to clarify my statement about further investigating Chappelle plans is not meant to disparage your excellent craftsmanship which is continually impressive. There is no flaw in your work. As I've repeatedly said, my goal is to aid in reconstruction of the most accurate clipper Stag Hound possible with all sources available.

Rich....I never take your input to imply criticism. I know full well, you are merely informing and updating information to better the outcome. Like with Glory...changes will happen during construction (as new info comes in), and construction changes will need to subsequently follow as well......
I wouldn't say my work was flawless.....it's pretty much thrown together at times....

Rob

rwiederrich · Tuesday at 8:52 AM

MThomas said:
I love the way your coppering system looks! Did you 'overlap' the edges of your copper tape, or does the lighting just make it sort of 'look' that way? It's hard to tell.

They are laid next to each other....it is the embossing that makes it look that way. Thanks for the compliment.

Rob

Norgale · Tuesday at 10:35 AM

Your method of applying the coppers is interesting Rob. I wasn't going to copper my GR but now, with your process illustrated here, it looks pretty doable. Looks nice too. Where is the copper available?

rwiederrich · Tuesday at 11:22 AM

Peter Gutterman said:
My "indeed!" was purely a commentary of agreement and experience on the amount of "pre- planning" involved. Even so the result is always a moving target. I lost count of the number of times I had to re-do my deadeyes and chains, having first followed the plans.

Peter, I also recognized your *Indeed* also referenced the issue of how the camera identifies and exaggerates minor errors and flaws in neatness.
And to agree with you...pre-planning is a must...experimenting is a must. If the angle of the chainplates are off...the final result looks iffy.

Norgale said:
Your method of applying the coppers is interesting Rob. I wasn't going to copper my GR but now, with your process illustrated here, it looks pretty doable. Looks nice too. Where is the copper available?

Rolls of copper tape can be acquired at Hobbie Lobby, or from any good craft store...or from many model hobby dealers.
You'll also need a foot long section of 1/2" wire mesh and a strip of gritted drywall sanding screen. And of course a rubber roller laundry roller. (which, might be your hardest task)

Rob

rwiederrich · Tuesday at 6:15 PM

I added for fun the staghound figurehead.

Rob

Peter Gutterman · Tuesday at 9:36 PM

Getting the figurehead mounted is the most rewarding, The icing on the cake!

ClipperFan · Tuesday at 11:48 PM

Gentleman, what you're looking at here, possibly for the first time in 175 years is an accurate prow of Stag Hound the pioneer vessel of the McKay California clipper fleet.

GIG1810 · Wednesday at 2:42 AM

Hey Rob,

That looks simply marvellous. I could never do it better than you. I'm very happy about this great kit and your marvellous work.

Best regards

Günther Ship-1

rwiederrich · Wednesday at 7:08 AM

Peter Gutterman said:
Getting the figurehead mounted is the most rewarding, The icing on the cake!

The Hound completes the stem/bow. She is now identifiable...by her figurehead as SAGHOUND.

Rob

rwiederrich · Wednesday at 7:13 AM

ClipperFan said:
Gentleman, what you're looking at here, possibly for the first time in 175 years is an accurate prow of Stag Hound the pioneer vessel of the McKay California clipper fleet.

You know...from all the historical data and eyewitness accounts...you are absolutely correct. The same feeling we had when Glory of the Seas was realized.
Quoting McLean, "...Her model may be said to be the original of a new idea in naval architecture" Apart from paintings, I have not seen another model of Staghound. Maybe you have.

Rob

rwiederrich · Wednesday at 7:24 AM

GIG1810 said:
Hey Rob,

That looks simply marvellous. I could never do it better than you. I'm very happy about this great kit and your marvellous work.

Best regards

Günther

Thanks for the fine compliments Gunther. Being in 1/96, she is large enough to scale out good detail, but small enough to hide flaws , fabricational missteps and details just too small to replicate properly. Hense...the embossed copper plates. And I'm sure you are simply meaning the model as a whole when using the word *Kit*, because this is a fully scratch built model. No part of it is from a manufacturers, *kit*.
Again....thanks for the interest and compliments.

Rob

rwiederrich · Wednesday at 7:38 AM

I just noticed...I carved and finished that figurehead just one year ago...this month. Man, has it been that long already? She's finally found her home.

So that everyone knows....it took me 5 years to build my 1/128th scale Great Republic and 3 years for my 1/96 Glory of the Seas. I hope to have Staghound build before 3 years is up. We'll see.

Rob

GIG1810 · Wednesday at 9:07 AM

rwiederrich said:
Thanks for the fine compliments Gunther. Being in 1/96, she is large enough to scale out good detail, but small enough to hide flaws , fabricational missteps and details just too small to replicate properly. Hense...the embossed copper plates. And I'm sure you are simply meaning the model as a whole when using the word *Kit*, because this is a fully scratch built model. No part of it is from a manufacturers, *kit*.
Again....thanks for the interest and compliments.

Rob

Hello Rob,

Beautiful, I'm delighted. What a great ship you're building. Really beautiful. Many thanks for your reply. You're right, I didn't mean a kit, but your own construction. I went through it and you really did a marvellous job. I had to smile at the self-turned pillars. I also turned mine myself for my dinghy. However, I don't have a lathe, just a Dremel and files. But I'm more than happy with it.

Best regards and I will continue to follow your construction report....

Günther Ship-1

P.S. If you want to see my little columns, have a look at my build report on the Athena. (Black Swan) I am currently building the dinghy.

rwiederrich · Wednesday at 10:12 AM

GIG1810 said:
Beautiful, I'm delighted. What a great ship you're building. Really beautiful. Many thanks for your reply. You're right, I didn't mean a kit, but your own construction. I went through it and you really did a marvellous job. I had to smile at the self-turned pillars.

Thanks......some of the stanchions are only 1/4"...used for the fantail.

GIG1810 said:
P.S. If you want to see my little columns, have a look at my build report on the Athena. (Black Swan) I am currently building the dinghy.

I've already looked in on your build....nice work on the dinghy. I like the staging of the little guys, overlooking your progress.

Rob

Norgale · Wednesday at 3:26 PM

rwiederrich said:
Peter, I also recognized your *Indeed* also referenced the issue of how the camera identifies and exaggerates minor errors and flaws in neatness.
And to agree with you...pre-planning is a must...experimenting is a must. If the angle of the chainplates are off...the final result looks iffy.

Rolls of copper tape can be acquired at Hobbie Lobby, or from any good craft store...or from many model hobby dealers.
You'll also need a foot long section of 1/2" wire mesh and a strip of gritted drywall sanding screen. And of course a rubber roller laundry roller. (which, might be your hardest task)

Rob

I hope I can get the mesh and the screen at Home Depot but the rollers will be a problem. I'll shop around to see what I can get. Would a rubber hammer with the copper on top of the screen be any good? Or maybe a wood board over the top and bang on that?

rwiederrich · Wednesday at 8:10 PM

Norgale said:
I hope I can get the mesh and the screen at Home Depot but the rollers will be a problem. I'll shop around to see what I can get. Would a rubber hammer with the copper on top of the screen be any good? Or maybe a wood board over the top and bang on that?

Calliger clothes ringers are available on Amazon.
Check them out.

Rob

rwiederrich · 2025-06-19T21:10:23-0500

I decided to finish off the forecastle face and the companionways. Everything is dry set. I’ll adjust the companionways roofs slightly and add the ladders outboard of these.

Rob