Tall ship GORCH FOCK - the never ending repair

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Once Germany was so proud, that we had pictured her on the 10 Deutsche Mark:

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The modern-day Gorch Fock was built in 1958 and has since then undertaken 146 cruises, including one tour around the world in 1988.
She is sometimes referred to (unofficially) as the Gorch Fock II to distinguish her from her older sister ship. The Gorch Fock is under the command of the Naval Academy in Flensburg-Mürwik.

Gorch_Fock_unter_Segeln_Kieler_Foerde_2006.jpg

Owner of the tall ship, which is used as School ship is the German Navy - means the state Federal Republic of Germany!

Renovations and repair problems
Over the years, various modernizations have been applied to the ship. She was fitted with air conditioning, the asbestos used originally was removed and replaced by less dangerous materials in 1991, and in that year she also received a new auxiliary engine, a six cylinder diesel engine producing 1,220 kW (1660 hp), giving the ship a top speed of 13.7 knots under power. The interior has also been modified multiple times; technological advances made it possible to reduce the size of the galley and enlarge the crew quarters.

Because of hull damage repairs began in November 2015 at the German shipyard Elsflether Werft with a first cost estimate of 9.6 million euro.
With the discovery of more problems the estimate was stepwise raised to 64.5 million euro within a year. Despite concerns about the rising costs the Ministry of Defense approved a continuation of the repairs..

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In 2017 it was determined that the amount of work required was much greater; this included the almost complete replacement of the hull plating, renewal of decks and refurbishment of the engine with a cost estimated at 135 million euro.

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In January 2018 repairs were stopped while a review was carried out by the Ministry of Defence, including consideration of replacing Gorch Fock with a new vessel.
In March 2018 it was announced that the project would continue, noting that a new vessel would could be delivered until 2025, and that the existing vessel would re-enter service in 2019. However, in January 2019 the ship was reported to be in an almost completely dismantled state.

A new actual review by the Bundesrechnungshof (Federal Audit Office) was sharply critical of the procurement process by the Ministry of Defense.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...repairing-sailing-ship-troops-face-shortages/

"Severe" mismanagement within the German navy and Defense Ministry led to massive cost overruns in restoration work on a naval training ship, according to a confidential report seen by Der Spiegelmagazine.
Repair estimates on the Gorch Fock were originally priced at under €10 million ($11.5 million), but skyrocketed to €135 million last year, the 39-page report from the National Audit Office found.
The agency blamed military officers for inadequately examining the sailing ship's deficiencies, ignoring information vital for the repair work and failing to fully inform Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen.
Work on the ship's hull and renewal of its upper and middle deck began in 2015 without an economic feasibility study, and without considering the case for constructing a new ship, auditors said.
A Defense Ministry spokesperson said the ministry would submit a formal reply to the Federal Audit Office's accusations by April.

Expensive storage
Before it was taken to Bremerhaven for repairs in 2015, authorities reportedly believed it would take some four months to complete the restoration.
More than three years later, however, the ship is still completely disassembled. Keeping the ship in dry dock costs the German taxpayers some €10,000 per day, according to Der Spiegel.
Meanwhile, the German navy has been forced to reassign its officer cadets to Mircea, a Romanian three master barque, for naval training.

Read more in the original report from the Spiegel (in german language):
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...ie-renovierung-so-explodierten-a-1247801.html



Let us see what the future will bring.......
 
Yikes! The USCG Eagle, built about the same time as the Gorch Fock I seems to have a much smoother time of it.
 
I love this class. I can see that many may look at it as to modern perhaps, when you think of old ships this one doesn't fit the bill really. I love the nice straight, sleek lines she has, looks super fast and I'm sure it was.
 
I am afraid no sailing ship was super fast. They could go quite fast if the weather conditions were perfect, but their voyage averages were quite low. Example, famous Tea Clipper Thermopylae in the tea race of 1876/77. Foochow to London via Cape Horn. Made the run in 125 days. Distance 17,091 miles. Distance per day average: 136.728 miles. 24-hour run over voyage 5.697 knots.
 
True, but the voyage averages of all sailing ships were so low that after the Suez and Panama canals opened, they had no chance of competing with 8 knot tramp steamers that could plod along at a constant speed whatever the wind, as well as taking advantage of the canals. As for galleons, I have never been over-impressed by them. Their main activity seemed to be sinking whilst loaded with plunder!
 
True, but the voyage averages of all sailing ships were so low that after the Suez and Panama canals opened, they had no chance of competing with 8 knot tramp steamers that could plod along at a constant speed whatever the wind, as well as taking advantage of the canals. As for galleons, I have never been over-impressed by them. Their main activity seemed to be sinking whilst loaded with plunder!
LOL very true of the Galleons, those poor things didn't fair well, But they are Beautiful ships.
 
If you think, it could not come worse .......

Seems to be, that the shipyard company, which is working on the repair of the Gorch Fock is insolvent......

Unfortunately in moment only german language news

https://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/2019-02/gorch-fock-werft-insolvenz
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/gorc...steht-vor-der.1939.de.html?drn:news_id=978752
https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/nied...t-steht-vor-Insolvenz,elsfletherwerft118.html

A historic film showing the launching in 1958



and setting sails
 
Last Friday, after three years in drydock, the hull of the Gorch Fock is once more swimming

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It is planned to finalize her, paid by the german taxpayers. In moment the total costs are at 135.000.000 Euros




some more photos:


 
Hello Uwe,
I was very astonished to hear, that our secretary of defense made her decision to repair the Gorch Fock. I don`t think that the sum of 135 million ( in other papers 128 million) Euros will do the job.
In normal life you would be unable to make such a nonsense, this works only, when you are dealing with authorities.

Greetings
Michael
 
The Gorch Fock is "swimming" again - re-launched with 95% new built !!!!

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It is planned, that the works are finished 31.st May with handing over back to the German Navy. And for July the first official turn is considered.

 
Excellent Uwe, a great piece of news. Hopefully she will see a long service life.

Jan
When we consider, that she is now by 95% new (- really - only 5% of the original ship were reused during her renovation ) we should see her the next 100 years sailing over the seas

Also the german tax-payers should have the right to see her the next 100 years - the renovation costs are now 165.000.000 Euros !!!
 
Once Germany was so proud, that we had pictured her on the 10 Deutsche Mark:

View attachment 72461

The modern-day Gorch Fock was built in 1958 and has since then undertaken 146 cruises, including one tour around the world in 1988.
She is sometimes referred to (unofficially) as the Gorch Fock II to distinguish her from her older sister ship. The Gorch Fock is under the command of the Naval Academy in Flensburg-Mürwik.

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Owner of the tall ship, which is used as School ship is the German Navy - means the state Federal Republic of Germany!

Renovations and repair problems
Over the years, various modernizations have been applied to the ship. She was fitted with air conditioning, the asbestos used originally was removed and replaced by less dangerous materials in 1991, and in that year she also received a new auxiliary engine, a six cylinder diesel engine producing 1,220 kW (1660 hp), giving the ship a top speed of 13.7 knots under power. The interior has also been modified multiple times; technological advances made it possible to reduce the size of the galley and enlarge the crew quarters.

Because of hull damage repairs began in November 2015 at the German shipyard Elsflether Werft with a first cost estimate of 9.6 million euro.
With the discovery of more problems the estimate was stepwise raised to 64.5 million euro within a year. Despite concerns about the rising costs the Ministry of Defense approved a continuation of the repairs..

View attachment 72462

In 2017 it was determined that the amount of work required was much greater; this included the almost complete replacement of the hull plating, renewal of decks and refurbishment of the engine with a cost estimated at 135 million euro.

View attachment 72463

In January 2018 repairs were stopped while a review was carried out by the Ministry of Defence, including consideration of replacing Gorch Fock with a new vessel.
In March 2018 it was announced that the project would continue, noting that a new vessel would could be delivered until 2025, and that the existing vessel would re-enter service in 2019. However, in January 2019 the ship was reported to be in an almost completely dismantled state.

A new actual review by the Bundesrechnungshof (Federal Audit Office) was sharply critical of the procurement process by the Ministry of Defense.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...repairing-sailing-ship-troops-face-shortages/

"Severe" mismanagement within the German navy and Defense Ministry led to massive cost overruns in restoration work on a naval training ship, according to a confidential report seen by Der Spiegelmagazine.
Repair estimates on the Gorch Fock were originally priced at under €10 million ($11.5 million), but skyrocketed to €135 million last year, the 39-page report from the National Audit Office found.
The agency blamed military officers for inadequately examining the sailing ship's deficiencies, ignoring information vital for the repair work and failing to fully inform Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen.
Work on the ship's hull and renewal of its upper and middle deck began in 2015 without an economic feasibility study, and without considering the case for constructing a new ship, auditors said.
A Defense Ministry spokesperson said the ministry would submit a formal reply to the Federal Audit Office's accusations by April.

Expensive storage
Before it was taken to Bremerhaven for repairs in 2015, authorities reportedly believed it would take some four months to complete the restoration.
More than three years later, however, the ship is still completely disassembled. Keeping the ship in dry dock costs the German taxpayers some €10,000 per day, according to Der Spiegel.
Meanwhile, the German navy has been forced to reassign its officer cadets to Mircea, a Romanian three master barque, for naval training.

Read more in the original report from the Spiegel (in german language):
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...ie-renovierung-so-explodierten-a-1247801.html



Let us see what the future will bring.......
Some important details should not go unmentioned ... The cost explosion is due to fraud and embezzlement of the yard manager. Of course, the minister, then Mrs. d. Leyen, today, unfortunately, EU leader, should have seen this and prevented it.
The Gorch Fock will be on May 31st. handed over to the Navy.

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Once Germany was so proud, that we had pictured her on the 10 Deutsche Mark:

View attachment 72461

The modern-day Gorch Fock was built in 1958 and has since then undertaken 146 cruises, including one tour around the world in 1988.
She is sometimes referred to (unofficially) as the Gorch Fock II to distinguish her from her older sister ship. The Gorch Fock is under the command of the Naval Academy in Flensburg-Mürwik

Owner of the tall ship, which is used as School ship is the German Navy - means the state Federal Republic of Germany!

Renovations and repair problems
Over the years, various modernizations have been applied to the ship. She was fitted with air conditioning, the asbestos used originally was removed and replaced by less dangerous materials in 1991, and in that year she also received a new auxiliary engine, a six cylinder diesel engine producing 1,220 kW (1660 hp), giving the ship a top speed of 13.7 knots under power. The interior has also been modified multiple times; technological advances made it possible to reduce the size of the galley and enlarge the crew quarters.

Because of hull damage repairs began in November 2015 at the German shipyard Elsflether Werft with a first cost estimate of 9.6 million euro.
With the discovery of more problems the estimate was stepwise raised to 64.5 million euro within a year. Despite concerns about the rising costs the Ministry of Defense approved a continuation of the repairs..

View attachment 72462

In 2017 it was determined that the amount of work required was much greater; this included the almost complete replacement of the hull plating, renewal of decks and refurbishment of the engine with a cost estimated at 135 million euro.

View attachment 72463

In January 2018 repairs were stopped while a review was carried out by the Ministry of Defence, including consideration of replacing Gorch Fock with a new vessel.
In March 2018 it was announced that the project would continue, noting that a new vessel would could be delivered until 2025, and that the existing vessel would re-enter service in 2019. However, in January 2019 the ship was reported to be in an almost completely dismantled state.

A new actual review by the Bundesrechnungshof (Federal Audit Office) was sharply critical of the procurement process by the Ministry of Defense.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...repairing-sailing-ship-troops-face-shortages/

"Severe" mismanagement within the German navy and Defense Ministry led to massive cost overruns in restoration work on a naval training ship, according to a confidential report seen by Der Spiegelmagazine.
Repair estimates on the Gorch Fock were originally priced at under €10 million ($11.5 million), but skyrocketed to €135 million last year, the 39-page report from the National Audit Office found.
The agency blamed military officers for inadequately examining the sailing ship's deficiencies, ignoring information vital for the repair work and failing to fully inform Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen.
Work on the ship's hull and renewal of its upper and middle deck began in 2015 without an economic feasibility study, and without considering the case for constructing a new ship, auditors said.
A Defense Ministry spokesperson said the ministry would submit a formal reply to the Federal Audit Office's accusations by April.

Expensive storage
Before it was taken to Bremerhaven for repairs in 2015, authorities reportedly believed it would take some four months to complete the restoration.
More than three years later, however, the ship is still completely disassembled. Keeping the ship in dry dock costs the German taxpayers some €10,000 per day, according to Der Spiegel.
Meanwhile, the German navy has been forced to reassign its officer cadets to Mircea, a Romanian three master barque, for naval training.

Read more in the original report from the Spiegel (in german language):
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...ie-renovierung-so-explodierten-a-1247801.html



Let us see what the future will bring.......
Now I have to say that the ship image on the 10 deutsche outdoes the 1937 Canadian 50 cent stamp with Bluenose, or did they follow the Canadian earlier tack? rich
 
In March it was still planned to hand over the Gorch Fock to the Navy in May.......but

Today the ship started from the shipyard the first trip for a four weeks test-tour.
Now it is planned, that the handing over will be in October.....




 
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