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Hi all, Jake here from Animagraffs. I'm confident at least some of you have seen my Youtube work, including the video I made about HMS Victory entitled "How an 18th Century Warship Works". My work is public, free, and popular online, and tends to be seen by a lot of people, so that's why I'm interested in high quality research.

I'm here because I'm currently making yet another ship video! This time, it's the beginning of the age of sail, with a 16th century ship that takes influences from Golden Hind, Mary Rose, Vasa, and other sources I can find (here, and in many, many PDFs, etc).

In a couple weeks, I'll have my full video transcript ready, with photos, for review. I'm asking for anyone who wishes to contribute to have a look at my script and screenshots, BEFORE I animate the actual video. This is the most efficient and time saving way to spot big research errors early. Then, once the animated video is actually created, I'll post for a 2nd round of critique.

Feel free to reply to this thread if interested. I'll post a new thread once this review doc is ready to share, and let y'all tear into it (lol).

Here's a screenshot of my current progress (I'm currently working through the rigging, bit by bit. It's intense!). I'm not asking for review on these screenshots -- they may have unfinished work and errors as it's "in progress". I just want to generate some excitement and interest for expert help later.

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In a couple weeks, I'll have my full video transcript ready, with photos, for review. I'm asking for anyone who wishes to contribute to have a look at my script and screenshots, BEFORE I animate the actual video. This is the most efficient and time saving way to spot big research errors early.

one thing i see is the type of framing of the hull was not used in the time period of the 16th century, It is a much later style. in the 16th century floors were set on the keel and the frame timbers were wedged between the tops of the floors and the top timbers were set between the timbers.
What you show came into practice in the later part of the 17th century

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This will be the build log for John Cabot’s ship the Matthew. It was a small ship without a lot of carvings and gingerbread and there is a lot of information about the ship on this site and Model Ship Builder. The model will be plank on frame, and since the is no original drawing there is...
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Hallo and a warm welcome here on board of our forum.
Interesting project ....
 
I also watched your YouTube video of Victory. Excellent work.
How about a coal fired steam driven pre dreadnought battleship for a future video ?
 
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jwships said:
Hi all, Jake here from Animagraffs. I'm confident at least some of you have seen my Youtube work, including the video I made about HMS Victory entitled "How an 18th Century Warship Works". My work is public, free, and popular online, and tends to be seen by a lot of people, so that's why I'm interested in high quality research.

I'm here because I'm currently making yet another ship video! This time, it's the beginning of the age of sail, with a 16th century ship that takes influences from Golden Hind, Mary Rose, Vasa, and other sources I can find (here, and in many, many PDFs, etc).

In a couple weeks, I'll have my full video transcript ready, with photos, for review. I'm asking for anyone who wishes to contribute to have a look at my script and screenshots, BEFORE I animate the actual video. This is the most efficient and time saving way to spot big research errors early. Then, once the animated video is actually created, I'll post for a 2nd round of critique.

Feel free to reply to this thread if interested. I'll post a new thread once this review doc is ready to share, and let y'all
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jwships said:
Your video was fantastic, I watched it with great interest!
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Hi everyone, I'm happy to say I got the review doc completed! I'm excited to see what your expert review will reveal.
  • It's an open google doc so anyone can suggest corrections to my work.
  • Any feedback is welcome! Such as:
    • Commenting in the doc. Google docs has good feedback/commenting tools there.
    • Replying to this thread with your suggestions (using your own screenshots, or paragraph decimal numbers from my doc)
    • Dm's
  • It's a HUGE doc, as always, because I insert lots of screenshots for review. So do as little or as much as you want.
  • We can work out credits based on who's commenting, or if I just credit the forum, etc. On my other youtube works I always credit those who help review research.
Here's the link:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gaz0iOdHQbmFSBmpwi-Rf6xCxFFCQDU7BYnnVVY6ll0/edit?usp=sharing
 
Hi Jake,
Thanks for posting your work. How does one gain access to Google doc feedback/commenting tools? I wanted to ask why there is a hump in the keelson and floors in the area of the deadflat. (Sections 1.3-1.4) I have never seen a camelback keelson before, thus my question.
Thanks
Alaln
 
AllanKP69 said:
Hi Jake,
Thanks for posting your work. How does one gain access to Google doc feedback/commenting tools? I wanted to ask why there is a hump in the keelson and floors in the area of the deadflat. (Sections 1.3-1.4) I have never seen a camelback keelson before, thus my question.
Thanks
Alaln
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Posting here is great! As for the google doc, you should be able to just open that link and start typing away, far as I know. Here's a screenshot from a private browsing window I opened to check that it's working:

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As to your question, I think it's a result of just going fast when modeling, not realizing that my software will tend to smooth the 3D model if I don't tell it to specifically make something angular. Here's the edited result, based on your feedback:

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My reference here is from the book "The Tudor Warship Mary Rose". Here's an example image:

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Keep in mind, the ship I've made is supposed to be a mish-mash model for an entire century, so there might be a lot of stuff like that throughout if we're going to critique at this deep of a level. Not to discourage! I'm into it!
My Youtube viewers and the public will benefit, but it's my job to bridge the gap between deep expertise and millions of general-public folks who know nothing at all. So that delicate dance is what will happen as we critique my work.
 
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