Torpedo boat AVANT-GARDE,1889 in 1/64

[Iterum]

Hello dear friends,

after a long discussion in the research division *KLICK* I do start with this build of the French Torpedo boat (Tb) from the book of Harald Fock p.46 - so this is the prelude:

on the left side you do find a jeoucy drawing...


poisened by a plenty of inaccuracies and errors. I made green lines If the two topviews and the sideview does fit and arranged with red lines and arrows where I did figure out something rotten:

...the stem.part is really great. The closer we do come towards the stern the more Changes are to be made. Here the missing of a homogenous stern:

A plenty of red lines do horrorfy me:

So I started to arrange cut outs from a second copy onto the drawing die to figure out i

Here an example for the work to be done, the staircase - on the left the hatch with the remove arrow:

Here the drawings to relocate the fore torpedo tube and the repositionision of the staircase top,hatches, and masts:

Here the very helpfull underlighttablet showing all the patches added to the drawings and the small misalinements when glueing the two Sheet parts to gether - my job for tomorrow to change this:

Here turn by 90° the reconstrution of the stern part in detail, as the underwater parts vere completly dismembered as butchered, so the tailor ruler as a reasonable tool to deal with:


This is the start of the building log now.

 

[Iterum]

AVANT - GARDE was built at LeHavre in the Augustin Normand ship yard


laid down 1888
launched 11.X.1889
Here one of the few pictures of her (and her class-mates) in habour:


Data:
Length pp: 42,0ms
Breadth: 4,51ms
Draugth: 1,30ms
Displ.:116/126
Power:1250hp
Speed: 20,5kn

Armament:

2× 47mm/40cal. Carnet QFgunMod.1885

2× torpedo.tube on pivot 350mm

1× spartorpedo


Here the spartorpedo apparatus and the rigg,
but no masts visiable - too early pictured?

AVANT-GARDE was the only boat of her class equiped with a spartorpedo apparatus at all.
She was a study for an ocean going torpedo boat ("torpilleur de haute mer'') and showed very satisfying results.She had had originally a light three masted rigg - I couldn't figure out if gaff sails were attacked or not. Here the Tb BATUM,1880 with her nice rigg - very similar to AVANT-GARDE 's rigg.


and a German build TB also from 1880th:

So at the early 80th* the three masted rigg was very common, but at the very end of the decad I do Not doubt but think it is questionabe, due to the twin screw technology.

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1880th!

 

[Jim Fortnam]

Books are so often wrong where drawings are concerned. Publishers never seem to bother about dimensional accuracy, so this sort of check up is essential. So helpful to see the way you are going about it.

Having quality drawings is always the basis for a good model.

 

[Iterum]

Books are so often wrong where drawings are concerned. Publishers never seem to bother about dimensional accuracy, so this sort of check up is essential. So helpful to see the way you are going about it.

Having quality drawings is always the basis for a good model.

Thanks Jim, it was a rocky road untill here and there will be more open questions popping up like rabbits very soon. So this was this weekend's progress - in this week I do hope to show some steps foreward towards a hull.
You are so right, very often these drawings are a poisioned trap - the workload to keep a satisfying set of plans in your hand is tremendous.
But let's be honest it is also a source of real fun to figure out what is wrong and what is questionable - aaaannndddd what is acceptable for this scale I did choose.

 

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Rearrangement of the shipyard:


Some 70m prototypes are possible - all the longer projects do need a new flat...

 

[Paulpk]

Chris, this is where a digital program like Photoshop or Illustrator would help you since your originals seem distorted. You would be able to distort sections to correct the distortion and use layers in the programs the way you are laying sections on top of each other.

Looks like an interesting project, good luck!

Paul

 

[Iterum]

I did a wrong cut and now I do not know what glue/clue to use to repair it without solving the paper by glue...

Any suggestions from you friends?

 

[jsk]

No real suggestions from me. But it's so rare to actually photograph the little green gremlin which, no doubt, is the source of the problem.

 

[pugwash]

Scotch Transparent Tape is the product you need.

 

[Iterum]

French torpedoboat AVANT-GARDE 1890

Repair of the plan in it's steps:


Glueing plasterer tape upside down in the cutting mat.


Alining the stern drawing half,


then the cut out wedge,


and at last the stem side half onto the sticky side of the tape.
Passing a clear tape all over it


and then cutting small pieces to fix the removed hatches in their correct placed.
Last step repaintintg the overtaped parts.

Thanks all of you for your helpfull hint using tape as it is dry and doesn't effect the wedge.

 

[Iterum]

No real suggestions from me. But it's so rare to actually photograph the little green gremlin which, no doubt, is the source of the problem.

He just started critically mummling something disgusting...