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what is a master shipwright

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exactly what is a shipwright in days gone by and in todays ship building industry. naval ships, pleasure craft, yachts, small wooden craft. Traditions passed down.

some model builders enjoy the research, the story behind the models they build. what about expanding that information to the history of ship building and those who excelled in the industry. I wondered if the shipwrights during the war of 1812 on the Great lakes knew one another and exchanged information on design and construction of the ships they built. Who were these guys and where did they learn how to design and build ships? were there schools that taught a formal education of naval architecture? Where these shipwrights just natural talented guys who gained an on-the-job educations?

Starting in modern times if you want to be a "shipwright" a designer, a marine architect i would suspect you cannot just walk into a firm and say "hey i want to build ships" i would think the first question would be what is your education? Is there a hierarchy within the industry today?

The very mention of “Clyde-built” ships used to send shivers of admiration down the spine of mariners across the globe. Scotland, particularly the River Clyde, was once the undisputed powerhouse of world shipbuilding, producing some of the most advanced, reliable, and celebrated vessels in history.


Alexander Munn, shipbuilder and shipowner; b. 26 Sept. 1766 in Irvine, Scotland, son of John Munn, shipbuilder, and Catherine Edward; m. 6 Dec. 1797 Agnes Galloway at Quebec, Lower Canada, and they had 11 children, of whom six died in infancy; d. there 19 May 1812.

Alexander Munn is a shadowy figure. Since his personal and business records have apparently not survived, the only direct evidence about him consists of disparate references found in routinely generated sources such as notarial records, newspaper notices, and ship and church registers. Difficult to work, these sources do not yield a rounded portrait. But the broad picture that emerges clearly indicates he was a leading Quebec shipbuilder in the beginning stages of that highly productive sector of the city’s economy. It is Munn’s entrepreneurial function that provides the focus in the following sketch.

Munn undoubtedly learned the “mysteries” of shipbuilding from his father before immigrating to Quebec in or before May 1793. In the 1790s the establishment of big-ship construction in the city implied a transfer of skills and capital in person from Britain. Certainly the cumulative evidence about British American shipbuilding in general shows a heavy reliance on Britain for technology (in the wide sense of the term), capital, and markets; the emergence of a native-born shipbuilder before about 1830 is rare.

Munn first appears in Quebec records in February 1794 when he described himself as a “ship carpenter” in a notarial act; by 1803, however, he was calling himself a “shipbuilder.” These descriptions superficially suggest that he rose from journeyman to master craftsman within the craft hierarchy, but in shipbuilding at Quebec at the turn of the 19th century the craft system seems to have been a vestigial formality which bore little weight in the actual economy of shipyards. Apprenticeships, which were common, were clearly used by employing shipbuilders primarily as a legal device to circumvent labour shortages, and the status of master shipbuilder did not entail any special political privilege as it did at Saint John, N.B., where it carried with it admission to the freedom of the city. The change in Munn’s title is more likely explained by what appears to have been a well-observed unwritten rule reserving the use of the appellation of shipbuilder to those who operated substantial yards, as Munn did by the later date.


Henry Eckford was born in Kilwinning, Scotland, to Henry Eckford and Janet Black (a possibly unmarried couple)[1] on 12 March 1775, the youngest of five sons. The family soon moved to nearby Irvine, As a boy, Eckford trained as a ship's carpenter somewhere in Ayrshire, probably in the shipyard at Irvine on the Firth of Clyde.

In 1791, at the age of 16, Eckford left Scotland – to which he never returned – to begin a five-year shipbuilding apprenticeship with his mother's brother, the noted Scottish-born Canadian shipwright John Black, at a shipyard Black had established on the St. Lawrence River at Quebec City in Lower Canada. Eckford proved to be a hard worker and quick learner, with a flair for shipbuilding and ship design. When Black moved to Kingston, Upper Canada on Lake Ontario late in 1792, Eckford followed to continue his apprenticeship, but the two soon went their separate ways, with Black moving back to Quebec City to pursue revolutionary politics and purchase a shipyard in Lower Town from Ralph Gray while Eckford stayed behind in Kingston to continue to learn the shipbuilding trade. In 1794, Eckford joined a Freemason Lodge in Kingston, beginning a long association with Freemasonry.

Adam and Noah Brown were brothers from upper New York State. Noah Brown was apprenticed as a carpenter from 1785 to 1792, and worked in New York until 1804, when he and his brother Adam built the schooner Work at Newark, Upper Canada, (now Niagara-on-the-Lake, Southern Ontario) for the North West Company. In early 1805, the brothers built a whaler at Sag Harbor on Long Island.

Donald McKay was born on a farm on the east side of Jordan River in Shelburne County, Nova Scotia, second of sixteen children of Hugh and Ann (McPherson) McKay. His paternal grandfather, for whom he was named, was a Scottish army officer who took up the farm among United Empire Loyalists in 1783.

Education
Donald was equipped only with a common-school education.

Career
Donald emigrated in 1827 to New York where, McKay was apprenticed as a ship-carpenter to Isaac Webb. When his indenture was up and he became a free-lance shipwright, his talents were noticed and encouraged by the leading New York ship-builders. Jacob Bell

Isaac Webb was born in Stamford, Fairfield, Connecticut, on September 8, 1794. He was the son of Wilsey Webb and Sarah Jessup. Isaac and Phebe had four children. Their son, Eckford Webb was named after the shipbuilder, Henry Eckford. His son, William H. Webb, became a shipbuilder.

In September 1810, Henry Eckford took on the 16-year-old Isaac Webb as an apprentice at his shipyard in New York. In the following years, Eckford would take on many other apprentices who would become important naval architects and shipbuilders, including Jacob Bell, William Bennett, David Brown, Andrew Craft, John Dimon, John Englis, Thomas Megson, Stephen Smith, and Sidney Wright.

On 14 January 1840, Webb died in New York City, at the age of 46, of inflammation of the lungs.

Major Contribution

He invested heavily in innovative marine architecture, and even promoting the concept of new ideas in ship construction.
 
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Well based on the term, it could be one of many people with skills used in building or maintaining ships of any kind.

As for models, I have limited skills as shipwright, and I am a long way from every being a Master!

One question for us model shipwrights, do we need any level of proficiency level, as novice, experienced or finally a Master?

In my other hobby of Model Railroading the National Model Railroad Association (NMRA) has a program when a railroader can achieve a MMR title, Master Model Railroader, which requires proven accomplishment in multiple various skills to show well rounded mastery of hobby.
 
This is an interesting topic. For the British I found the following but I suspect other nations had similar periods of apprenticeship, being a journeyman, and beyond. Interestingly, it was different in private shipyards than it was in RN yards.
Allan

The path to becoming a master
1. Seven-year apprenticeship
  • A compulsory start: The Statute of Apprentices of 1563 made a seven-year apprenticeship a legal requirement for anyone wishing to enter a trade.
  • Basic education: Apprentices usually entered the profession with limited education. By the late 18th century, the Navy Board recommended that new apprentices should at least be able to read, write, and do basic arithmetic.
  • Practical training: The bulk of the training was practical, performed in a shipyard under the direct supervision of a master. The apprentice worked on everything from menial tasks to assisting in the construction of vessels.
  • Exclusion from the trade: Anyone who tried to bypass the apprenticeship system could be ostracized by other shipwrights. Those suspected of not completing an apprenticeship could be "horsed" out of the yard, or driven away.
2. Advancement to journeyman
  • Post-apprenticeship experience: Upon completing their seven years, a shipwright became a journeyman. This stage involved working for wages under different masters in either royal or private shipyards.
  • Gaining expertise: This period allowed the shipwright to gain extensive, hands-on experience and a deeper understanding of the trade.
3. Ascending to master shipwright
The final requirements for becoming a master differed significantly between private and royal shipyards.
In private yards:
  • Ownership and capital: A journeyman's path to master was nearly impossible without significant capital. A master shipwright typically had to own their own shipyard, including the necessary land and tools.
  • Hereditary advantage: In practice, the role of master shipwright in a private yard often passed down through families, as succeeding a parent was the most reliable way to acquire the necessary assets.
In Royal Navy dockyards:
  • Promotional path: In the royal dockyards, shipwrights, also known as carpenters in the navy, advanced through a structured system. A senior journeyman with years of experience could be appointed to a master shipwright position.
  • Experience-based promotion: The Royal Navy offered a clearer, though still competitive, path based on experience. Some shipwrights who served at sea as naval carpenters would return to civilian dockyard work and later advance into management roles.
  • Specialization and patronage: Some highly skilled individuals, like the famous naval designer Sir Thomas Slade, rose quickly through senior management roles based on their expertise and the support of influential figures.
  • End of the post: The title of master shipwright was abolished in the Royal Navy in 1811 with the creation of the School of Naval Architecture, which established a more formalized, scientific route to the top.
 
i went through a grueling 4 year apprenticeship in graphic art and design the only way in was if you knew someone. There were a lot of father and sons in the trade. sounds like the same with ship building. Yes i followed my father into the trade.

it looks like any serious "hobby" has a hierarchy from beginner to master.

In my other hobby of Model Railroading the National Model Railroad Association (NMRA) has a program when a railroader can achieve a MMR title, Master Model Railroader, which requires proven accomplishment in multiple various skills to show well rounded mastery of hobby.

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i remember a long, long time ago if you wanted to be a member of the Nautical Reach Guild you needed a sponsor and you had to submit a model and the research used to build it. That was back in ancient times and it is no longer required. The standards were lowered and sad to say so goes the quality of workmanship.

could it be a true statement model engineering, model aviation, model railroading, steam modeling and in European countries model ship building mimic their real world counterparts of a hierarchy with standards from beginner to master or just carry on willy nilly?

Alexander Munn a shadowy figure just called himself a master shipwright and who is to argue with that. As Allan pointed out in England they had rules and tight standards. I do not know the history of marine architecture in north America and what it is rooted in.
 
Did some digging on the title in the US. Who knows with AI answers, but I could find nothing to contradict the following.

In the United States, "Master Shipwright" is not an official, licensed title but an informal designation earned through years of experience and demonstrated expertise in the craft of boatbuilding.

Looking at some shipyards in the US today, a yard like Fincantieri Bay Shipbuilding in Wisconsin has no specific "master shipwright" title as the company operates with a modern, team-based structure. In the 70's When I worked in tow yards building all types and sizes of barges and large push boats we had helpers, apprentices journeymen, foremen, draftsmen, supervisors, and executives, but no shipwrights.

Allan
 
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Did some digging on the title in the US. It appears there is no formal training required.

In the maritime trades there wasn't the same rigidity of rank. It wasn't until the maritime trades unionized that there were formally certified apprentices, journeymen, and masters in each trade. The non-union yards didn't care, as long as you knew what you were doing and that really boiled down to how much experience you had doing it. My cousin worked on the fishing boats and managed to make Master Baiter before he retired. :D :D :D
 
Re; Allan’s Post #3 Royal

Then there’s the case of William Bagwell, who worked in the Royal Navy’s Depthford Dockyard in the late 1600’s. It seems that Bagwell’s pretty wife caught the eye of the famous Samuel Pepys. Pepys was an official involved in administration of the Royal navy who recorded his many romantic conquests in his now famous diary. He recorded 50+ visits to Mrs Bagwell while her husband steadily advanced in grade at the dockyard, ending up as master shipwright.

Richard Endsor devotes a paragraph about Mrs. Bagwell in his “The Restoration Warship;” Mrs Bagwell taking the lead. A fictional and somewhat feminist point of view of the relationship is Deborah Swift’s “A Plague on Mr. Pepys.”

Roger

PS, The sponsor and model submission must have been prior to my joining the Nautical Research Guild exactly 50 years ago in the fall of 1975.
 
Donald McKay is my favorite shipwright, I hope to make a model of his Witch of the Wave (1851) from scratch some day.
 
I think 99.99% of hobby builders are building ship models!! Not real ships lol ad they do not have to a naval architect or shipwright!!!
 
I think 99.99% of hobby builders are building ship models!! Not real ships lol ad they do not have to a naval architect or shipwright!!!
But we all should admire any fine craftsman from whatever trade they are professing. And mostly those fine people who design and prepare the model kits for our pleasure.
 
I think 99.99% of hobby builders are building ship models!! Not real ships lol ad they do not have to a naval architect or shipwright!!!

i agree but to a certain degree you would have to know something about what your building.
Perhaps this hobby is like a video game with levels the better you get and the more you practice the higher you move up, that is if you want to. Advancement is not required!
 
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there was a man who was a prodigy, at the age of 9 he began to show an advanced skill of engineering and drafting. born in Ohio Frank Kirby lived his youth in Cleveland. His father Stephen Kirby was a successful business man and when Frank turned 14 his father moved the family to Saginaw Mich. where he built a hotel, several mills and formed the Detroit dry dock company where he built numerious sailing ships and steamboats. Frank Kirby at the age of 15 was employed as a draftsman. Rather than staying in the family business Frank went to New York City and with the help of his fathers business associates, he enrolled in the Cooper institute, the only technical school of its kind in the United States

The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art, commonly known as Cooper Union, is a private college on Cooper Square in Lower Manhattan, New York City. Peter Cooper founded the institution in 1859
The college is divided into three schools: the Irwin S. Chanin School of Architecture, the School of Art, and the Albert Nerken School of Engineering.


At the time Kirby was in New York it was a major ship building center. Frank attended evening classes and durning the day he would sit in the ship yards and watch ship being built. At school Frank Kirby studied marine design and ship construction, every waking moment he spent devoted to this interest. Through various connections Frank Kirby was introduced to a Mr. Belknap who was the consulting engineer and the first supervising inspector general of the government steamboat inspection service.
Mr. Belknap told Frank Kirby only a boy of 17 years old he had a job for him. Mr Belknap was incharge of building two ferryboats and wanted young Frank to work on the engine drawings at the Allaire Works the oldest and most famous engine building company in America. While in school Frank continued to work at Allaire engine plant and also did side jobs working on pumping station engines in New Jersey. Working in the wet environment of the pumping stations frank developed muscular rheumatism. Frank needed the care of a doctor who lived in Detroit, so Frank decided to move to Detriot. An old friend of Franks father Mr. Hoyt wired Frank and said he and Mr. Ward will join him on the train to Detroit. Mr Ward was the president of the Marquette railroad and a leading figure of industry of the day. On that train ride to Detriot Mr Ward talked to Frank on the idea of building iron ships. At this time there was a great deal of doubt as to whether iron ship would float, but Mr Ward felt it could be done. An agreement was reached between Mr Ward and Frank Kirby to build a ship yard in Wyandotte Mich. right next to MR. Wards iron mill and rolling mills. At the age of 21 Frank Kirby was handed all the money he needed, the land and anything else to form the Wyandotte ship building company. When the company was formed and the yard built Frank Kirby and his father left for Glasgow Scotland to learn how to build iron ships

So there was a formal education for ship builders and also the family business of learning the trade from dad or a master shipwright.
 
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from what i can gather there was no oversight or control of wooden sailing ships outside the naval shipyards. In private yards ship builders could do whatever they wanted. It was a self-governing industry success of a ship builder was judges on his design and sea worthiness of the vessels he built. Reputation was the governing factor.
But this all changes when steam replace sail
Act of 1838
The safety inspection of merchant vessels documented under the flag of the United States has been authorized in varying degrees by Congress and required by law since 1838. In the early days, the United States Congress hesitated to pass adequate safety laws for fear of interfering with the growing and economically important steamboat industry.
The 1838 law proved inadequate as steamboat disasters increased in volume and severity. The period from 1847 to 1852 was marked by an unusual series of disasters primarily caused by boiler explosions; however, many were also caused by fires and collisions. These disasters resulted in the passage of the Steamboat Act of August 30, 1852 in which enforcement powers were placed under the United States Department of the Treasury, rather than in the hands of private litigants as with the Act of 1838
 
The standards were lowered and sad to say so goes the quality of workmanship.
I understand what you mean with this sentence, however, if the changes had not been made The Nautical Research Guild would not exist today.

it was a grand vision to try and maintain the high standards as seen in the admiralty models and academic circles but there just wasn't enough builders or an interest to maintain such an idea. Over the years the NRG did not kick the idea of high standards to the curb they just expanded and embraced the full spectrum of the hobby. Which proved to insure their survival.
 
I think 99.99% of hobby builders are building ship models!! Not real ships lol ad they do not have to a naval architect or shipwright!!!

But we all should admire any fine craftsman from whatever trade they are professing. And mostly those fine people who design and prepare the model kits for our pleasure.


99.99% so that exclusive 1% club is where you find the kit designers, the scratch builders, the academics, the historians it is the foundation of the hobby. what if the 1% club closed up shop and the know how became esoteric?


The NRG tried so hard to be recognized in academic circles as legitimate builders of historic ship models and be part of the National Maritime historical society in the end it failed. why is that? maybe because the hobby has no standards or recognition of excellence. maybe the hobby has been put into a blender and turned into a soup of mediocrity.
the danger
In practical terms, mediocracy can lead to stagnation and a lack of innovation within, as decisions and policies tend to favor the status quo rather than bold or innovative moves. Mediocrity, in the context of personal performance or creative work, implies that the outcome or product does not reach its full potential, often resulting in a lack of recognition or impact.

the Frank Kirby's are needed in the hobby

there may be model ship builder prodigies but where does the members of the 1% club come from? the rank and files those who move forward in knowledge and skill.


 
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This is a remarkably complicated topic but also very interesting. Wooden ships could be and of course were built by artisans with little or no formal training. But, dating back hundreds of years there has been attempt by some shipbuilders to develop mathematical rules to ensure successful designs. This led to the geometric formulae to define hull form used by the Spanish, British, Dutch and surely other nations in the 1400-1700 period. Using these rules did not necessarily require preparation of formal drawings. I would consider the men who knew how to apply these and other shipbuilding rules to be Shipwrights; rather than a ship Carpenters.

The effort to use mathematics to determine a ship’s performance has been an important thread in ship design ever since. Major progress has sometimes been made by men not related to ship design. The Concept of Metacentric height to determine transverse stability was developed by a mathematician and the Understanding of hull structural engineering was borrowed from British Civil Engineers. Calculation of Hull resistance waited for the work of William Froude in the 1870’s. Froude was not a Naval Architect but one of those eccentric English experimenters. Previous hull resistance theories like Russel’s Wave Line theory were bogus.

Understanding ship performance and applying these rules that defined it were two different things. Hull form calculations encompassing displacement, transverse stability, and trim were especially hard to calculate because of the difficulty calculating Weight and Center of Gravity in wooden hulled vessels. Shipyards lacked the ability and organization to know exactly how much of a heavy piece of timber actually found its way into a finished vessel.

The major change from Shipwright to Naval Naval Architect occurred with the construction of metal hulled vessels ( first iron, and later steel). Iron and steel construction allowed and required precise mathematically driven engineering. Much of the shipwright’s job, therefore, was performed by educated Naval Architects and specialized draftsmen in the design office.

I would argue that shipwrights still exist but they are not involved in building large vessels. They are designing and building wooden boats and yachts.

Roger
 
I would argue that shipwrights still exist but they are not involved in building large vessels. They are designing and building wooden boats and yachts.
Roger

so a shipwright is an artisan knowing the "mysteries" of the art and not necessary formerly trained architects hum interesting


born and raised on the shores of the Great Lakes i became fascinated with ship building. My first question was how were these ship built during the war of 1812? i searched for plans and was told there are no plans. so how can a shipwright in the wilds of the Great lakes build massive war ships with no plans, no mold loft nothing but yet build ships?
When i started building model ship over and over i heard "to start you need a good set of plans", BUT if the shipwrights could build real ships with no plans why do i need plans to build models? From the start i never built kits and slowly into scratch i started from scratch because i saw kits were not how ships were built.
maybe there is an answer

MATHEW BAKER AND THE ART OF THE SHIPWRIGHT
‘FRAGMENTS OF ANCIENT ENGLISH SHIPWRIGHTRY’
‘Art or Mystery of building and making of Ships’

On paper, the problems and tasks of ship design could be posed in new terms, and techniques could be transferred, explored and adapted. Moreover, paper could circulate through and beyond the shipyard, reaching and speaking the language of those with no direct experience of shipyard life. Paper was a mobile ‘place’ where shipwright and mathematician could meet and exchange. Indeed, without paper, Baker’s mathematics and his contacts with mathematical practitioners would have been not just difficult but incomprehensible and impossible.

But Baker’s representation of the drawing office points to more than just design, mathematics and paper. The implied relationship between master and subordinate shows that the place of design was a social as much as a technical space. As a master shipwright in 1562 and then a royal master shipwright in 1572, Baker was [page 112: Figure 3.2] [page 113:] accustomed to the exercise of control and managerial responsibility.4 Indeed, he had been brought up to occupy a privileged position within the trade, for his father, James Baker, had been a master shipwright to Henry VII
As an elite shipwright, Baker’s status as a craftsman needs to be carefully and explicitly weighed. Unfortunately, in the existing historiography of scholars and craftsmen there is disturbingly little precision in pinning down the identity of artisans. Frequently there seems to be a tacit understanding that the craft world was made up of small workshops populated by individual masters, with perhaps an apprentice or two, and a journeyman. This stereotype is entirely inadequate for Baker.

So how were ships designed without paper? By the 16th century an apparatus of simple though powerful rules and techniques had been developed for large vessels. Ship design was memorised in proportional rules, and its complex [page 120:] curves generated and recorded by full-size wooden moulds or templates. Technically advanced shipwrights employed a sophisticated constructive geometry which used wood rather than paper and took place not in a design office but out in the shipyard itself.16

In the later 16th century, English naval vessels, like earlier Mediterranean and Iberian ships, were carvel or skeleton-built; that is, the keel was laid down, the stem and sternposts erected, and then the frames or ribs set up along the length of the keel, before the planking was applied. The shape of skeleton-built frames thus determined the form of the hull.17

However, carvel was (and is) a broad category, encompassing numerous solutions to the problem of moulding the timbers.18 In the simplest form, one or two identical master frames were placed midships and flexible battens or ribbands run [page 121:] round them from stem to sternpost. The shapes of all the other frames were then taken from the ribbands. The only frame actually to be specified in advance was the master frame, for the ribbands were adjusted during framing to give a fair form. More advanced techniques for large vessels reduced the reliance on ribbands, by pre-specifying the frames in the central section of the hull and reserving the use of ribbands to the ends of the ship, where the curves become sharper. The sophisticated techniques for deriving these pre-determined frames show the Renaissance shipwrights’ constructive geometry at work.
 
I think 99.99% of hobby builders are building ship models!! Not real ships lol ad they do not have to be a naval architect or shipwright!!!!!!

thinking about it i believe you hit it exactly right. Maybe that is why there are so many unfinished kits, builders getting frustrated and why this hobby is so small compared to model railroading model planes, plastic modeling etc. which all teach the hobby.
builders do not know what they are doing, a lack of knowledge on the subject, why so many complain about inadequate instructions that expect the builder to have some basic knowledge. Your right you do not have to be a naval architect or shipwright!!!!! but knowing basic information on the subject might be a big plus.
So what can be done to help and promote model ship building?
 
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