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when to use a "correction" plank

Hi Shipahoy

The information on the following links could prove useful:

There is also an article relating to planking a hull in the latest issue of the MSB journal (Feb. 2023).

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Depends on many factors …. Looks to museum standard. Or for you! Obvious you know planking sequences… so if run is out - take off. Please use ticker tape 1st, work out planking. Look at research material. Then… 90% it follows runs. Scaling is another factor… measure 2/3/4/5 … draw out, step back, go get cup of tea. Next day fresh eyes. If all fails bring a friend in to look… if scale permits you can use let ins as per original. If you’re playing underside well - copper or … will hide. If a total purest then you would have followed the rules and this discussion is pointless. Please note your material and ribs - this can cause real head aches (in fills needed if not exposed)… yes! It’s a headache like Galleys to rigging. Nothing easy building anything + most materials are :( apple to lime is good but .. we must make do with what we have. Keep eye on grain / planking pinning. One of my models came apart due to super glue / wood glue / pining : moisture / temp variations (not in case)… that breaks your heart!
 
shipahoy said:
working on the lower hull of a scratch build Mayflower, and the bow planks are startingng to creep up a little to high . I want to keep the tapers to at least 1/2 a plank. I have heard of the use of a correction plank that is laid near the bow to offset this. Does anyone know of this and how it is used?
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1. These "correction" planks are called 'stealers'. 'Srealers' come in all shapes and sizes. I would grab all the books I could find and research the subject before I wasted a lot of time building an inappropriate stealer.
2. Almost all wooden ships used stealers somewhere. Aesthetics plays a big part in there use on models. They are a separate dessign problem in their own tight. Good luck.
 
thanks bill36
ended up scrapping the hull as i messed up the planking on the counter. the plans i have show for a high stern with somthing between a round tuck and a square tuck and a small amount of deadwood. anyway, i messed it up. i had only gotten about a dozen planks on either side when i realized it wasnt going to work. it was a plank on bulkhead so no huge loss . to make matters worse i tried a dark stain on the poplar planking and that ended up looking crappy too. its up on a shelf for now . i may double plank it later to try to salvage it, but i think i will just start again. i started this while finishing up a scratch built 1:48 of the santa maria to get some variety so im really not too broken up about it.
 
shipahoy said:
thanks bill36
ended up scrapping the hull as i messed up the planking on the counter. the plans i have show for a high stern with somthing between a round tuck and a square tuck and a small amount of deadwood. anyway, i messed it up. i had only gotten about a dozen planks on either side when i realized it wasnt going to work. it was a plank on bulkhead so no huge loss . to make matters worse i tried a dark stain on the poplar planking and that ended up looking crappy too. its up on a shelf for now . i may double plank it later to try to salvage it, but i think i will just start again. i started this while finishing up a scratch built 1:48 of the santa maria to get some variety so im really not too broken up about it.
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1. Round tucks are a "bitch" no matter how many models you have built. There are a "LOT" of tricks of the trade that are used to get the planks to bend with such small radius of curvature. In some cases, you put in a "big baulk" of wood and carve it down so that it looks like a plank, but isn't. Round tucks ARE NOT for beginners. I have done a few and always dread the next one.
2. Pick a model with a square tuck for your first model or two. BUT, the Santa Maria is another problem: this was my first model. I "started" the Santa Maria 50 years ago (still not finished). The model companies do a "shitty" job in designing kits for this ship. If I were you (and I realize I am not), I would pick a kit of a single deck vessel (a small frigate -?) with a few cannon (I certainly would not pick anything like Boudriot's "74"- ancre.fr). I would also rig the sails: anyone who has never rigged sails knows nothing about rigging. Basically, you want a "simple" model with a little bit of everything. Avoid massive projects like a "first rate" it could take 20 to 30 years for one person to finish a first rate with any degree of accuracy: it took Longridge and a BIG team of museum experts a dozen to finish the English model. Pick a model that you can finish in about a year. I would also pick a "framed" model and NOT a BULKHEAD model. It is somewhere between very difficult to next to impossible to get a round tuck and/or stealers onto a bulkhead frame: personally I would not even try. I would fill in a bulkhead frame with lime/bass and make it a solid hull. People who build fully framed models end up filling in a lot of spaces between frames anyway just to make life simpler.
3. You need to buy a few books: I have about 200 in my collection and practically every day I am looking for some detail of which I am ignorant and I do not have a book with appropriate detail. There were some books advertised for sale on this forum a week or two ago. You might look at them (if any are left). There is no other way to learn this stuff. I started buying in 1959 and have been at it ever since.
If you send me your rmail, I will send a foto of my current project, L'Hermione (plans from ancre.fr).
4. Good luck.
 
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on the mayflower i will probably remove the planking to where it started to go wrong and redo properly. i dont normally double plank so other than tossing her in the recycle bin this is the best option ( i have already built one on a commission using the same plans and she turned out great. maybe i should pay more attention as planking isnt my favorite thing ) . anyway i will post some pics of the almost complete sta. maria in a day or two and you guys can let me know what you think of her
 
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