A Dutch Fluyt in shell first, reconstructing the "Ghost ship" scale 1:36

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For a long time I already want to build a Dutch fluyt and had been looking for the best possible candidate.
The shape of the fluyt is extraordenary and directly recognizable with its bollow stern, the Jelo of ships. It was the workhorse of the 17th century when the Dutch dominated shipping in the Western world. But proper sources of fluyts are scarse most probably she was so "standard" in those days, like we have posters and books of a Lamborghini Countach but not of a Hyundai Pony.
Recently Hans @Kolderstok posted a detailed history of the fluyt while launching his very nice kit of a Dutch fluyt, which you can find here.

First target was the ship Anna Maria. Anna Maria was a large 130 feet fluyt build in Amsterdam in the late 17th century for a group of Swedish shipowners from Stockholm. She sailed regularly between Sweden and Portugal with iron ore, copper & wood and on her way back with salt and wine. She was a fluyt of the type called a straetsvaerder a larger fluyt with a beakhead and cannons as she had to defent herself when passing the English channel.
In the beginnin of the 18th century she became ice bound in the port of Dalaro Sweden as the winter season started ealry that year. A small crew of just a view people stayed onboard the keep the ship safe during the winter. Let's put it mildly they did a louzy job, on one night they all went to the local pub and left on the fire onboard and that ended with a big bang. We now have a shipwreck of here at the bottom of Dalaro harbour. Based on the know data from the ship and the story Cor Emke made a set of drawings two decades ago. These drawings I got from Ab @Ab Hoving for which he mentioned that they were not correct. The last 10-15 years the wreck site was further researched and the ship was 3 D scanned these 3D models you can find here.

I have been comparing the lines of the Emke drawing with the 3D model and the shape of the hull is indeed different, maybe a great project for future research.

I went on and was looking for a ship wreck which could be build into a model, trying to get as close as possible to the original.
Now there are two remaining candidates both Dutch fluyts from the design houthaler (Wood carrier). These are fluyts without a beakhead and no cannon because they sailed between the Netherlands and the Baltic which was considered as a safe area.

The first candidate is the wreck recently found by the Baddewanne group in Finland.
You can find all her data on the baddewanne website.
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She was a fluyt build in 1636 and probably called Swan, she here her upper stern.
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She is nearly complete and would be an interesting candidate, but there is not enough drawing work publicly available of this ship yet.

So the final candidate is another fluit which is at 130 mtr depht in the middle of the baltic. and from this ship there is a lot of info. There is a documentary made, drawings are made which are based on full 3D scnning of the ship. This is what you really can call a Disney ship wreck, sitting at tghe bottom with her masts stil standing.
This ship was fully documented by Niklas Eriksson who is also involved in the Baddewanne find. Also our forum member @fred.hocker took part in this "Ghost ship" project.
Very handy for your reserach is the site Academia.edu were you can find a lot of research about shipwrecks etc etc.
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For the reconstruction of my ship model I make use of the publicly published papers and drawing of Niklas Eriksson and of the Delftship models and knowledge and help of Ab Hoving. But more on that in a later post when I will discuss the creation of the model step by step.
 
Hi Heinrich,

It will be the last one, reason for this one is the amount of documentation and the state of preservation of the ship.
You can find a lot on her on internet and there was also a model build by Dirk Wuyts which he published here.

From Dirk I also received a lot of his research data.
 
As we all will I'm sure. I do think that front row center should be reserved for Heinrich.First Place Metal
Thank you very much for that Ron. I have long said that Maarten's build of the Royal Caroline is the finest build from a kit I have seen on SOS whilst in the Innovation and Bravery Category, he is the co-holder of the title with @Peter Voogt Peter.
 
Maarten, this is going to be both interesting and challenging at the same time.

I can think of how I would do it, but, the hard part is the fact the shell is only one layer of planking, so will not be as stable as a shell produced with multiple layers.

I look forward to hear your plan:)

Kind Regards

Nigel
 
For a long time I already want to build a Dutch fluyt and had been looking for the best possible candidate.
The shape of the fluyt is extraordenary and directly recognizable with its bollow stern, the Jelo of ships. It was the workhorse of the 17th century when the Dutch dominated shipping in the Western world. But proper sources of fluyts are scarse most probably she was so "standard" in those days, like we have posters and books of a Lamborghini Countach but not of a Hyundai Pony.
Recently Hans @Kolderstok posted a detailed history of the fluyt while launching his very nice kit of a Dutch fluyt, which you can find here.

First target was the ship Anna Maria. Anna Maria was a large 130 feet fluyt build in Amsterdam in the late 17th century for a group of Swedish shipowners from Stockholm. She sailed regularly between Sweden and Portugal with iron ore, copper & wood and on her way back with salt and wine. She was a fluyt of the type called a straetsvaerder a larger fluyt with a beakhead and cannons as she had to defent herself when passing the English channel.
In the beginnin of the 18th century she became ice bound in the port of Dalaro Sweden as the winter season started ealry that year. A small crew of just a view people stayed onboard the keep the ship safe during the winter. Let's put it mildly they did a louzy job, on one night they all went to the local pub and left on the fire onboard and that ended with a big bang. We now have a shipwreck of here at the bottom of Dalaro harbour. Based on the know data from the ship and the story Cor Emke made a set of drawings two decades ago. These drawings I got from Ab @Ab Hoving for which he mentioned that they were not correct. The last 10-15 years the wreck site was further researched and the ship was 3 D scanned these 3D models you can find here.

I have been comparing the lines of the Emke drawing with the 3D model and the shape of the hull is indeed different, maybe a great project for future research.

I went on and was looking for a ship wreck which could be build into a model, trying to get as close as possible to the original.
Now there are two remaining candidates both Dutch fluyts from the design houthaler (Wood carrier). These are fluyts without a beakhead and no cannon because they sailed between the Netherlands and the Baltic which was considered as a safe area.

The first candidate is the wreck recently found by the Baddewanne group in Finland.
You can find all her data on the baddewanne website.
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She was a fluyt build in 1636 and probably called Swan, she here her upper stern.
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She is nearly complete and would be an interesting candidate, but there is not enough drawing work publicly available of this ship yet.

So the final candidate is another fluit which is at 130 mtr depht in the middle of the baltic. and from this ship there is a lot of info. There is a documentary made, drawings are made which are based on full 3D scnning of the ship. This is what you really can call a Disney ship wreck, sitting at tghe bottom with her masts stil standing.
This ship was fully documented by Niklas Eriksson who is also involved in the Baddewanne find. Also our forum member @fred.hocker took part in this "Ghost ship" project.
Very handy for your reserach is the site Academia.edu were you can find a lot of research about shipwrecks etc etc.
View attachment 303919

For the reconstruction of my ship model I make use of the publicly published papers and drawing of Niklas Eriksson and of the Delftship models and knowledge and help of Ab Hoving. But more on that in a later post when I will discuss the creation of the model step by step.
Hi Maarten. This is gonna be a very challenging and interesting build! I’ll sat my chair somewhere in the room.
Regards, Peter
 
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