Definitely a sharp waterline, that rough painting will take away from your fine workmanship. Though original I wonder what the crew way back thought of that slap happy paint job - blame the apprentice 
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HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50
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Roger, this is what makes this hobby so fascinating. If there is one man who knows how to finish a ship so that it is authentic looking, it is @Ab Hoving. Below, you will see that he has also incorporated a relatively "rough" waterline on his superb model of the Fluyt.Definitely a sharp waterline, that rough painting will take away from your fine workmanship. Though original I wonder what the crew way back thought of that slap happy paint job - blame the apprentice
But luckily for me, his rendition of the Willem Barentsz, shows a much cleaner waterline.
I therefore think I am in good company!
I think we all know I would have gone with the sloppy one...
Good evening Heinrich. Interesting 2 pages, guitars, sloppy waterlines etc. I have seen a few Dutch models with the erratic waterline and some do show a realistic impression. The above Fluyt is a prime example. IN my humble opinion a sharp straight waterline gives a model a better appearance tho. In your quest for authenticity I am happy to leave that call to you. Either way I wait in eager anticipation...Cheers Grant
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You all of ALL people !!!I think we all know I would have gone with the sloppy one...
NEVER!!!! I am sitting here, racking my brain about what Paul will say at my attempt. 
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Thanks for the support, Grant! You know, I will quote the Meatloaf song: "Two out of Three Ain't Bad."
1. I have painted below the waterline - correct!
2. I have used the linseed, pine tree, whale oil, fishy smelling paint mixture - correct!
3. I have not painted a "rough" waterline, though it certainly is sloppier than I would have liked!
In any case. it's time to put on my big boy "whatever" and show you guys what I have so far.
I really like it! And I always thought the white below the water line helps make the wood color pop. And it sounds like perfection is not a requirement, thus you have liberties. Enjoy the liberties!Thanks for the support, Grant! You know, I will quote the Meatloaf song: "Two out of Three Ain't Bad."
1. I have painted below the waterline - correct!
2. I have used the linseed, pine tree, whale oil, fishy smelling paint mixture - correct!
3. I have not painted a "rough" waterline, though it certainly is sloppier than I would have liked!
In any case. it's time to put on my big boy "whatever" and show you guys what I have so far.
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When you see the wood eating water worms approach, who cares about a sharp edged paint job…
“Hurry!” Willem said. “Finish that paint job! I’d rather have my ship crushed by ice than eaten by a tiny worm” “Should we strand, then it shall be in a heroic way!”
A Dutch phrase for a sloppy paint job is “geverfd met de bokkepoot”
A bokkepoot is literally translated as a buck’s paw so painted with a buck’s paw
This is a bokkepoot:
“Hurry!” Willem said. “Finish that paint job! I’d rather have my ship crushed by ice than eaten by a tiny worm” “Should we strand, then it shall be in a heroic way!”
A Dutch phrase for a sloppy paint job is “geverfd met de bokkepoot”
A bokkepoot is literally translated as a buck’s paw so painted with a buck’s paw
This is a bokkepoot:
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Heinrich,
You should have stated you were going to go with the rough waterline and further stated you intended to paint it with a roller. (Of course using a fine brush instead. But we wouldn’t have known)
Then we would marvel at how well the waterline looked and your expertise at painting with a roller.
You should have stated you were going to go with the rough waterline and further stated you intended to paint it with a roller. (Of course using a fine brush instead. But we wouldn’t have known)
Then we would marvel at how well the waterline looked and your expertise at painting with a roller.
Probably a wise decision.Whilst I do not doubt the accuracy of this for one moment, I just cannot bring myself to paint my waterline purposely like that - it is like telling me that I need to make sure there are some gaps in my hull planking!
Remember the trouble you got in with the admiral when she saw the first coat .
Hi Heinrich,Thanks for the support, Grant! You know, I will quote the Meatloaf song: "Two out of Three Ain't Bad."
1. I have painted below the waterline - correct!
2. I have used the linseed, pine tree, whale oil, fishy smelling paint mixture - correct!
3. I have not painted a "rough" waterline, though it certainly is sloppier than I would have liked!
In any case. it's time to put on my big boy "whatever" and show you guys what I have so far.
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I think your water line looks great, with a small amount of unevenness this is very convincing IMHO.
Great work.
Cheers,
Stephen.
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Thank you, Dean. You know that I value your opinion highly, so I am very happy that you like it. It is a bit difficult to see on the picture, but the Kolderstok paint is actually not a crispy white It does have a slight yellow tint to it, but it still contrasts sharply with the oak finish. What you say about the white accentuating the wooden finish is absolutely true!I really like it! And I always thought the white below the water line helps make the wood color pop. And it sounds like perfection is not a requirement, thus you have liberties. Enjoy the liberties!
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Hans, as I said before, I have no doubts that the "sloppy" waterline was historically accurate especially when the ship was painted during a voyage. However, as a model builder, I know my limitations and the reasons why i think most of my results look OK, is because I have learnt how to work around those limitations. To me, painting with a "bokkepoot" (and this is a fascinating piece of information you shared) and weathering a ship, fall in the same category. The line between weathering looking amazing and being too much is a very fine one and once it is crossed, it can easily destroy a build. You and Hans Groenenberg on Modelbouwforum, @shelk Shelk on SOS and Ab are masters at giving a model a weathered look that is just right; for me it will be very difficult, simply because it is not my style of building.When you see the wood eating water worms approach, who cares about a sharp edged paint job…
“Hurry!” Willem said. “Finish that paint job! I’d rather have my ship crushed by ice than eaten by a tiny worm” “Should we strand, then it shall be in a heroic way!”
A Dutch phrase for a sloppy paint job is “geverfd met de bokkepoot”
A bokkepoot is literally translated as a buck’s paw so painted with a buck’s paw
This is a bokkepoot:
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Heinrich,
You should have stated you were going to go with the rough waterline and further stated you intended to paint it with a roller. (Of course using a fine brush instead. But we wouldn’t have known)
Then we would marvel at how well the waterline looked and your expertise at painting with a roller.
Ron, you will never grow old, you have far too great a sense of humor for that! I did actually receive a roller with the primer that I bought. It's still in the plastic bag though!
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Daniel, I try to capitalize on my strengths and work around my weaknesses. When it comes to painting, for me it is very much a case of working around my weakness. Grabbing a paint brush and painting a waterline freehand, would have spelt "disaster"! The decision to paint below the waterline in the first place, is as brave as I get with regards to painting!Probably a wise decision.
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Thank you very much Stephen - I know that it was also a major decision for you when you decided to go for the weathered deck on your Formidable LT 100 Drifting Trawler. Make no mistake, the small amount of unevenness still sticks out like a sore thumb to me. I will first finish the Port Side, see how it looks and then make a final decision and possible adjustments.
I’ve always felt laughter is far better than crying although it does get me into trouble at times when I run into someone with no sense of humor or is having a bad day. Just ask my Admiral.
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I agree wholeheartedly Ron. These days we have little enough to laugh about as it is, so we have to make the most of our opportunities.
By the way, I would also be smiling if I was the recipient of a Hailing Hoy kit. Congratulations my friend!
Me too. I almost pulled the trigger on that one (I still might) as I would like to see what’s up with POF building and this looks to be one a neophyte might enjoy. An outstanding price point!By the way, I would also be smiling if I was the recipient of a Hailing Hoy kit. Congratulations my friend!