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Don't pay any attention to the weird thing my iphone did with the picture. 
Thank you for your well wishes !
Hi Jeff,
If the kit is a representation of a fully framed ship, the framing for Enterprise looked like the below. Even the contemporary models were rarely framed like the actual ships so precision regarding the framing is up to you and the kit design. Even if fully framed like the actual ship there is space between the frames for air. You can figure this space at the floors, as well as the futtocks using the siding of the pieces and the room and space. There is typically more space between the upper futtocks as their siding dimension was less than the lower futtocks and floors. Note the moulded dimension at the top of the top timbers is 3 inches to 4 inches.
Allan
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From the contract if you really want to go crazy with sizing
ROOM & SPACE The Room & Space of the Timbers to be 2 ft 2⅝ ins, or agreeable to the Spacings of the Frames on the Draught.
FLOOR TIMBERS The Floor Timbers, between Timber 5 & Timber C in the Bearing of the Ship to be sided 12 ins, & from 5 to 19 aft & from C to M forward inclusive sided 11 ins, & from 19 aft, & M forward sided 10 ins, to be in length in Mids18 ft 6 ins, afore & abaft as the Draught directs.
LOWER FUTTOCKs The Lower Futtocks in Midships between 5 & C inclusive to be sided 12 ins, & from M to 19 inclusive to be sided 11 ins, from thence forward & aft to be sided 10 ins, to run down to the Deadwood, & not less than 5 ins whole wood there, to have Chocks across the heels of the them to supply the wood that may be wanting from thence to the cutting down or inside of the floor timbers to have 5 ft 11 ins scarph to the second futtocks in &, & not less than 5 ft 6 ins afore & abaft, or agreeable to what the Draught expresses, & to be in & out at the Heads 8⅝ ins
SECOND FUTTOCKS The Second Futtocks to be sided between 19 & M inclusive 10 ¾ ins, from hence forward & aft 10 ins, to have 5 ft 11 ins scarph to the futtocks in &, & as the draught directs afore & abaft; to be in & out, or moulded at the heads 8 ins, afore & abaft the same.
THIRD FUTTOCKS The third futtocks in Midships to be sided 10 ½ ins afore & abaft 10 ins & to have scarph to the upper futtocks 5 ft 11 ins in Midships, & not less than
5 ft 6 ins afore & abaft except such as come under ports which are to continue up to the underside of the lower sills, moulded at the heels Midships 7 ⅛ ins afore & abaft the same
FOURTH FUTTOCKS The fourth futtocks in Midships to be sided 10 ½ ins afore & abaft 10 ins and to run up to the topside but such as make the sides of the ports and all those appointed to be sided 11 ins after the timbers are trimmed to the bigness of the ports & those appointed to make the sides of the said ports as well as those that come under the main and fore channels run up as high as high as the top of the side in Midships & afore & abaft sufficient to receive the upper sill of the port and as much higher as can be got.
TOP TIMBERS… The top timbers to be sided at the heels & upper futtock heads 10 ½ ins and at the top of the side 10 ins, to be well grown young Timber, & those appointed to make the sides of the ports, sided 11 ins, quite free from sap or wane when the port is trimmed out, & that there remains whole Wood clear of the bitt of the sill, not less than 9 ins, moulded in & out of the Top Timber Head 3 ins, & forward in wake of the timber heads 4 ins.
Not fixed really, but sometimes we are lucky to have choices.point out things that need to be fixed.
Just as it is possible (or likely) that no two shipyards did things exactly the same back in the day, no two of us here in the hobby do things exactly the same way all the time which, thankfully, makes for a never ending string of new things to learn. For me the ultimate treasure of information is having contemporary as-built drawings and the contract available and then learning the various ways folks here have got it done.
Yes, there will be quite a bit of room there.
Good morning Jeff. I have pulled up a chair and will follow with anticipation. This dockyard kit looks like a Gem so have fun. Cheers GrantAs promised, here is my pic of the "final" of the building jig. I did not attach the pieces at the very back of the jig because it says not to glue them as they are the supports for the counter timbers.
I did have a minor question.
The instructions say the supports for the counter timbers are labeled B-16 and show #1, #2 and #3. The parts are labeled B-17a through B-17c. I'm guessing that the part labeled a would go in position 1 and so on. THankfully, I don't need an answer right now as they are not to be glued on.
Tomorrow I start on the keel pieces.
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It looks a bit like a scaffholding for some sort of spacecraft...As promised, here is my pic of the "final" of the building jig. I did not attach the pieces at the very back of the jig because it says not to glue them as they are the supports for the counter timbers.
I did have a minor question.
The instructions say the supports for the counter timbers are labeled B-16 and show #1, #2 and #3. The parts are labeled B-17a through B-17c. I'm guessing that the part labeled a would go in position 1 and so on. THankfully, I don't need an answer right now as they are not to be glued on.
Tomorrow I start on the keel pieces.
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especially if i stand it on end !
