The Arizona 1/200. Trumpeter.

can you post a profile picture of the stern to see if they molded the armor belt or not & a picture of the bottom of the model for docking keel locations?
 
are you going to taper the prop shaft housings that are part of the hull that the prop shafts come thru as shown on Sheet 3 - Outboard Profile of the ship's Booklet of General Plans 1941 or leave them with blunt ends?
 
Great project Bryan !

There are issues with the hull form in many areas. There is one build where the hull was chopped about all over to correct all of these, but it is a case of how far do you want to go. You can find yourself going down a deep rabbit hole very easily. This may have been on the Finescale modeller website, not sure but is was a huge amount of work before you even reach deck level

I assume you are going to add aftermarket photo etch?
 
NMBROOK said:
Great project Bryan !

There are issues with the hull form in many areas. There is one build where the hull was chopped about all over to correct all of these, but it is a case of how far do you want to go. You can find yourself going down a deep rabbit hole very easily. This may have been on the Finescale modeller website, not sure but is was a huge amount of work before you even reach deck level

I assume you are going to add aftermarket photo etch?
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Hello Nigel,
thanks for the info. It would be great if someone could find that article and post a link.
 
Davidp said:
are you going to taper the prop shaft housings that are part of the hull that the prop shafts come thru as shown on Sheet 3 - Outboard Profile of the ship's Booklet of General Plans 1941 or leave them with blunt ends?
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Hello David,
This is great advice thank you. I am grateful if you can steer me in the right direction with modifying the model to get a more accurate representation of the ship.

EDIT- I found a plan of the ships propeller shaft housing, and see the issue.

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I will have a look to see if I can find the article Bryan. I do remember though the hull being seriously reshaped at the bow end and the profile was changed where the forward case mates used to be fitted. The difference between kit and the actual vessel is noticeable when you compare the model hull with photos of the vessel I believe
 
NMBROOK said:
I will have a look to see if I can find the article Bryan. I do remember though the hull being seriously reshaped at the bow end and the profile was changed where the forward case mates used to be fitted. The difference between kit and the actual vessel is noticeable when you compare the model hull with photos of the vessel I believe
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Thanks Nigel,
I did find a photo of a 1/350 scale Arizona with propeller shaft modifications on the internet. ( Sorry for the poor photo.)

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Bryian said:
Hello friends,
been looking for another ship model for some time, and finally jumped at this kit when it was discounted recently. This is the start of my new build log for the USS Arizona.

I have assembled the main hull and deck pieces together. Thanks for your interest.

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Good luck with this build Brian. You've already made some decent progress; you're ahead of me on the hull at present as I've been focussing on sub assemblies.
 
Wedgie01 said:
Wow, you're way ahead of me with the docking keels. What have you used to replicate them? Evergreen strips?? Looking good mate. Hope to get on top of mine this weekend.
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Thank you my friend. I'm not sure whether my docking keels are 100% accurate, but its the best I can ascertain with the plan drawings . I used thin 1mm timber planking for the keel construction along with 2 part epoxy filler.
 
how wide are your docking keels as should be 2.286mm for 1/200 scale as they were 18" wide on the real ship? do you have a link of that stern plan you posted above? don't use that picture as a reference as i see issues with it. what are you using to measure with?
BB-39 USS Arizona Booklet of General Plans (1941) https://archive.org/details/bb39bogp1941
nevermind the plan link as i already have that plan as thought yours was familiar til i found i already had it.
 
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Bryan unfortunately I spent quite some time searching for the build I mentioned to now avail. There was one article I found some 24 pages long but a prompt came up saying “access denied” and asked me to pay a subscription. Could be what I read several years ago but that is pure conjecture on my part

What I did read included the following;

Anchor Hawse holes in the hull the incorrect shape

Upward sweep of the keel between propshafts incorrect, a lot of material removal required here and the lower after hull need filling with casting resin to allow removal of this hump

Obviously you have dealt with the docking keels. Apparently White Ensign models provide a template for these in their etch set

The forecastle plating is the incorrect pattern where the anchor chains run

The Casemate guns sit too high in their openings out of the box

These Casemates need the lips removing top and bottom as hugely overscale

I do remember vaguely from the article I read that the kit bow was too fat as it came to a point and needed to be much more slender. I can roughly remember the builder chopping the forward section of the hull apart and rebuilding as you would as in the stern issue, just sand through the hull

I hope at least this gives you something to ponder on
 
This is awesome reference material guys, thank you.

David, do you have other photos of hull modifications by the model builder above ?
 
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yes as i posted 7 of the 44 i have on my computer, do you want me to post the other 37 or setup a special thread for them?
 
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