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Hello I need help!

If you choose to but one or more of the three Model Shipways beginner kits I would suggest only buying the basic hand tools necessary to build it: a metal ruler 12” or 6” ruler graduated in 16ths, a small square, a mechanical pencil or if a regular pencil a way to keep it sharp, Xacto knife with #11 blade, a set of Zona saws, and some small spring clamps. I would also buy a small bench vise.

As you move forward, buy the additional tools needed to solve whatever problems occur.

Roger
 
I recommend starting with the model expo 3 ship shipwright series. They can be bought as individual kits, and come with or without a basic set of tools. You can download and look at the building instructions from the model expo site first if you want to get an idea of what each involves. there are also you tube videos and many build logs on this site of those kits to aid you. That is what I basically did and am glad I started there.


DITTO to what Rob said above! Build this series of three small kits and you will have a very basic beginning understanding of the processes involved. Do the best job you can. Consider each section of the process a model in itself. Aim for perfection. They are actually nice display models if done well. Read books on the subject of ship modeling. Read every one you can find. Study them. Many are available online used for not a lot of money because a lot of people start out wanting to get into ship modeling, but only a small fraction are willing to tackle the learning curve.

Research is as much, if not more, important than building and it can often be even more enjoyable. (It makes less of a mess, for one thing. :D) Pick a subject or period you are really interested in and dive deep into researching it. If you are interested in submarines, then try to become an authority on every submarine you can read about. Build submarine models. If you are interested in Napoleonic warships, which is a very complex subject, then read up on that and become an authority on that and build those. Realize that you can't build a decent model if you don't know what the real thing looks like. Not just a picture or a plan on paper. I'm talking about your being able to look a picture or a plan and actually "be there" on that vessel in your head.

Your question raises delicate issues. Nobody wants to scare you off on the one hand, but on the other, nobody wants to blow smoke up your butt, either. We all want to welcome you, but you've got to realize you're looking to run with the big dogs now, so you've got to watch and learn. Despite what the advertisements say, you can't build a "museum quality" Napoleonic ship of the line out of a "paint by numbers" kit box.
 
I agree with Bob and Rob above. I didn't recommend them because it sounded from your initial post that you had decided what you were going to start with.
If you get the 3 kits as recommended, Model Expo even has a deal where they will give you credit for the cost of the first kit if you send them a picture of your completed first kit. :)
Here is a link to the thread where the manufacturer makes the statement :
lets-get-more-people-into-wooden-ship-building

Regardless, we are here to answer questions for you. :)
 
i'm starting to wonder if we are being trolled here. people are really trying to help you but it appears that you have little respect for that. i'm on my sixth build and struggling to get better. I have built 2 real boats and some furniture and I know that I don't have the skills to take on the project that you are focusing on. I also have a workshop full of tools. I like to see people interested in the hobby and would hate to see you give up
 
Yeah your on point. I've done other models before but just not wooden model ships. I've always taken an interest In ships and have been doing drawings and watercooler panting of them and I mostly have taken an interest in early submarines. And about wood , I did do research on the type of wood I would like to get, I did go for "boxwood" as a nice option and did find a form about what glues to use. I don't have that many serous tools ether. And I did get "boxwood" from this art store that had an architecture section, but I didn't know much about at the "boxwood" specifically so I don't even know if its boxwood any more. the supplier is this company https://budnosenmodels.com/catalog.html.
 
Boxwood is NOT good for long, narrow applications, as it tends to "wander" as it ages. Longridge's "Victory" had many examples of this. Boxwood is very hard, and is best used for carvings ,blocks . etc.
 
In a perfect world you need the shop and space shown in the first two photos, with basic shop tools, such as a sander, a drill press, a bandsaw, a micro chopsaw, and a jigsaw. A micro table saw and planner are stretch goals. You can get by with the third photo for a simple kit build, but you need dedicated space, a model ship is a journey, not a destination.

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Hi I'm new hear and this site seams credible for modeling advice. I'm starting a project to build a 6th rate British sailing ship I was interested on how to build this specific one on the site: https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/english-6th-rate-ship-–-reverse-engineering-the-draught-from-the-late-17th-century.12152/. I have planking that's 1/16 X 1/4 X 25 I don't know much about scale I looked It up and It would translate to 1:48 to 1:64 I don't know If that's accurate. I also would like to know how I cloud build the that specific 6th rate ship into a model.
The only plan I know is referenced at the NMM stated above. Unless it really has to be this ship Le Salamandre is visually similar, it may be of interest. If you would consider kits there are a number of plank on frame kits available, I think all are Chinese. Dry Dock do a 1:96, for me too small, eyesight considered. This you can get for around 150$. Alternatively a 1:48 at 1390$ on Chinese market sites, Ali-etc.. Plank on frame can be pricey. These would certainly give you the practice to go on to scratch.
If you're building deck framework basswood will not do at all, you were correct first time, boxwood or pear. All the tenons that will need chiselling out require a good solid timber. Basswood and walnut are offered by kit manufacturers because they're cheap and cheerful. They won't do for what you intend.
 
i'm starting to wonder if we are being trolled here. people are really trying to help you but it appears that you have little respect for that. i'm on my sixth build and struggling to get better. I have built 2 real boats and some furniture and I know that I don't have the skills to take on the project that you are focusing on. I also have a workshop full of tools. I like to see people interested in the hobby and would hate to see you give up
no I'm just lost and a beginner :(
 
Look up the thread by Norgale of the Great Republic in 1:48 scale. I found a lot of information on how to build the GR in William Crothers book The American BUilt Clipper Ship. I know you're not building a clipper ship but the pictures, diagrams and text will give you everything you need to know about building a model sailing ship. Basic construction of ships has been pretty much the same for centuries, just apply the new info to the ship your building and it will be ok. Just don't try to make everything complicated or you'll end up in the shallows or wrecked on a rock.
 
Look up the thread by Norgale of the Great Republic in 1:48 scale. I found a lot of information on how to build the GR in William Crothers book The American BUilt Clipper Ship. I know you're not building a clipper ship but the pictures, diagrams and text will give you everything you need to know about building a model sailing ship. Basic construction of ships has been pretty much the same for centuries, just apply the new info to the ship your building and it will be ok. Just don't try to make everything complicated or you'll end up in the shallows or wrecked on a rock.
Thank you for the help, I'll look into it.
 
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