Mary Rose "Your Noblest Shippe" 1545 scale 1/50

[Backer64]

This will be a reconstruction of my Mary Rose build log. All was lost in the last MSW crash.

The build log on the Dutch model building forum is being used as the basis. Translating, copying, etc. all posts will take some time and effort.
The build started in February 2023 and the model looks like this now.



Here we go


Welcome to the construction of the Mary Rose.

This is not my first model; the previous model was the Golden Hind/Pelican in 1/45 scale in Scratch.
My first wooden model was the Vasa Billing Boats.

The Mary Rose was built in 1515 and sank in 1545. The remains have been salvaged and are now on display in a museum.
This will be an attempt to rebuild the ship on the cover of "Your Noblest Ship".

History (Wiki)
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Rose_(schip,_1512)

Museum
https://maryrose.org/your-visit/

Start.
Used books.

The book Tudor Warship contains a frame plan that has been enlarged to a scale of 1/50.

drawing out rafters

ready to be sawn out

The rafters have been sawn.

There is a first time for everything (never done before), the hull will be built upside down.

Looks decent

In the following posts, it will become apparent that the shape of the frames is not entirely correct.

 

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The frames, continued

As can be seen in the photo, the shape of the frames from the book MR Tudor Warship is pretty good.

But if you compare this with the frame example from MR your Noblest Shippe, there is a considerable difference.

The advantage of the Mary Rose Noblest shippe is that fairly clear plans are included at a scale of 1/100. The one in the photo is enlarged by 200%.

Determining the position of the frames is also going quite well.
The frames are called sections here; the original wreck has been subdivided into sections to make it easier to place found objects.

As you can see, there is a clear difference.

So, extra frames are made.

The length-to-width ratio also matches the noblest shippe dimensions better.

And adjusting the "old" frames

The difference between section 10 and frame 11 is clearly visible.

The new sections ( 1 5 6 8 10 ) are in the correct place and the frames (1 - 12) are being adjusted.

 

[dockattner]

Greetings, Patrick. I love what you have accomplished in that first image. I'll pull up a chair and see how you got there...

 

[Backer64]

The used wood for planking and etc :Cherry
this was originally going to become firewood, but I thought it was a waste...) has been drying for 8 years now.
For the rough preparatory work, the "heavier" tools are used :yes:

 

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Modify the frames and make an opening in the middle.

Leveling the construction board

Aligning frames with the laser

Make sure the screws remain accessible...

The aft section is finished. There were some problems with the bow, which is why the keel was sawn through.

Supervisor Felix has control over the shipyard

 

[Backer64]

The drawing from Noblest shippe has been manually enlarged.

A noticeable difference from my first bow...

And now it becomes clear why the waterlines were incorrect.

So further adjust and reposition the forward frames.

The frames are screwed to the baseboard and the waterlines are now reasonably correct.
The next task is gluing the frames to the keel pieces.

 

[Peter Voogt]

This will be a reconstruction of my Mary Rose build log. All was lost in the last MSW crash.

The build log on the Dutch model building forum is being used as the basis. Translating, copying, etc. all posts will take some time and effort.
The build started in February 2023 and the model looks like this now.
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Here we go


Welcome to the construction of the Mary Rose.

This is not my first model; the previous model was the Golden Hind/Pelican in 1/45 scale in Scratch.
My first wooden model was the Vasa Billing Boats.

The Mary Rose was built in 1515 and sank in 1545. The remains have been salvaged and are now on display in a museum.
This will be an attempt to rebuild the ship on the cover of "Your Noblest Ship".

History (Wiki)
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Rose_(schip,_1512)

Museum
https://maryrose.org/your-visit/

Start.
Used books.

The book Tudor Warship contains a frame plan that has been enlarged to a scale of 1/50.

drawing out rafters

ready to be sawn out

The rafters have been sawn.

There is a first time for everything (never done before), the hull will be built upside down.

Looks decent

In the following posts, it will become apparent that the shape of the frames is not entirely correct.

Nice to see your build-log of this special type of ship also here on the SoS, Patrick. Welcome!
Regards, Peter

 

[Backer64]

Supports are glued between the frames

ready for a first sanding

Sanding and other dust-producing activities take place outdoors.

The next step is to fill in the lower part of the hull with wooden "filler blocks".

The first one is in place

 

[Backer64]

Nice to see your build-log of this special type of ship also here on the SoS, Patrick. Welcome!
Regards, Peter

Thanks Peter
For the next few days, or longer, I will have to do a lot of copy/paste


The lower part of the hull has been filled with blocks. This is some extra work, but it provides a solid base for the planking later.
(The most ugly hull on SoS ??)

For rough sanding, "met grof geschut in Dutch (heavy artillery)"

best to do this outside in the garden...

after scrubbing for a few minutes

The rest has been sanded by hand, giving this result.

What already stands out is the pointed shape of the bow. Never expected that on a big carrack like this.

 

[Backer64]

The next step will be the planking.
First, I need to determine what goes where and how thick planks and such need to be cut.

At the rear, in the stern, there are 2 cannons (stern chasers).
Wrong or right? Tactically and historically, it could be correct.

preliminary sketch

Positioning of the lower "wale" (the W1 on the previous sketch) using the laser

With the laser as a guide and a ruler, this position can easily be measured.

The position has been determined

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During a period of dry weather, wood was sawn.
Cherry firewood became "model boat wood".

A stock of small boards of various thicknesses

And pieces for the planking and the keel

 

[Backer64]

The keel

The keel consisted of 3 parts, the front and rear ones of elm and the middle one of oak.
So the middle section of my keel consists of cherry, like the rest of the planking. The other parts are made of ramin (the last remnants from my previous project).

Gluing pieces

A groove was provided on the front and back.

 

[Backer64]

Gluing the keel and the bow piece.

Preparation

The first part

Gluing the keel

The entire bow section is glued.
This piece is much too long. Cutting it to size and shortening it later is easier than having to make it longer.

Nothing of the connection between the keel and the bow piece has stood the test of time. So, it's guesswork.

The connections between the keel pieces

 

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The stern

First, some plastic surgery in the plywood.

Gluing the first and second parts

Glue the last 2 parts

The keel has been shaped at the back, and it even looks like it in the drawing too :yes:

 

[Thukydides]

The build log on the Dutch model building forum is being used as the basis. Translating, copying, etc. all posts will take some time and effort.
The build started in February 2023 and the model looks like this now.

At least you have that to work from. I have been trying to think about whether it is even worth trying to reconstruct my log. I have all my research compiled in my document, but don't have much else.

Good to see you are able to rebuild it.

 

[Backer64]

The planking

First of all, we are making wale
The form they gave it back then is something nice ... Therefore, a kind of scraper was first made in the correct shape.

And then we do this

And we get this. Later I discovered that this shape was so that water standing on the wale could not seep inside.

The "planking example"
Green are the front and back pieces that fit into the keel.
The red one is a very wide plank at the bottom; I'm making it narrower so I don't run into problems later.
I still need to take a look at blue (a veeeery wide plank...)

The cherry wood is first moistened, if necessary, and bends very easily.

Planking has started

 

[Backer64]

Good to see you are able to rebuild it.

Thumbs up
Crashing once is bad luck. Crashing a second time is....


First, i sawed a batch of planks of various widths.

The stern
Planked at a 45° angle

Further planning.
In those days, different widths of planks were used. As can be seen in the photos, it is sometimes a bit of a puzzle, hence all the lines, numbers, and notes.

And sometimes things don't go as planned... And an adjustment is needed.

First sign off on what is in excess.

"and a bang with the hammer"

Back on the right track

 

[Backer64]

For some reason, back then they deemed it necessary to start the bow with an extra wide plank.

We use an extra wide plank as a starting point for this.

It is first brought into approximately the correct shape at the bottom.

soaked in water and bent

And made and glued in the correct shape

The remaining opening goes from narrow at the bow, through wider in the middle, to narrower again at the stern.
So, this looks okay for now.

 

[Backer64]

One row of the planking has a special shape at the transom / stern.

Work in progress

The last row

One side is finished and has had a first sanding with 200 grit sandpaper.

And for the first time, not upside down

 

[Backer64]

The planking on the other side is about halfway.
The widths of the planks are simply taken from the other side, so much less thinking and calculating this time.

Planking done, sanding time

Result of the first sanding.

I am quite happy with this special plank at the stern.

First, a "quality control" check follows. After that, further sanding will take place and the keel will be tapered.

 

[Backer64]

After a day of sanding in the sun, the lower part of the hull has been sanded.
The keel and the stem are tapered.
As you can see, the model has also been detached from the base plate.

The tapered keel; the cross-section drawings were very helpful for this.

A bit straighter than the original, though...

Tapering the bow was a bit of a free interpretation; little of the original remained.

And, Mary Rose landed on her feet (keel) :yes:

The base plate must now be modified before construction can continue.

A new base plate.
Large and bulky, but sturdy, and the model is easily accessible.

It is also still possible to align them neatly and at right angles.

Here and there, the "wale" was slightly the wrong shape.
The wood glue was loosened with isopropyl alcohol and the whole thing was glued back.

Check if we are still at the correct height based on the dimensions on the cross-sections.
Only a 1 mm deviation here and there, that's fine with me .

The first plank is going in

A lot of clamping

The intention is to install at least 2 planking strakes. These will serve as base support at the bottom for the wooden frames that will replace the plywood.