HMS Enterprise 1774 POF 1:48.

[Gilbertm]

Good morning from a South Africa in mourning…..on Saturday the All Blacks (New Zealand rugby team) didn’t just beat the Boks (South African Rugby) they whipped our “ass”. @ConsNZ was definitely smiling .

Anyway, I did the waterways and margin plank on the upper quarter deck. I looks way to symmetrical for the style of the rest of the ship so hopefully a few irregular deck planks will break this.

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Cheers Grant

well done Grant
Too bad for the boks last week end

 

[AllanKP69]

She continues to be a beauty.

A question for which I have not ever been able to find an answer based on contemporary sources...... for the gun ports on the upper gun deck in the area of the waist where no lids were used, why wouldn't the hull planking cover the entire lower sill and frames to form the gunport like it does with the spirketting inboard? I have no idea if there was a rule on this, just curious if there was a consensus among ship builders in the age of sail. Looking at a couple models at Preble Hall, the planking comes up short like at the ports with lids (and which you have faithfully duplicated on your model). This is probably a question with no answer from those days and of little import but inquiring minds and all that.

Thanks
Allan

 

[BradNSW]

Good morning from a South Africa in mourning…..on Saturday the All Blacks (New Zealand rugby team) didn’t just beat the Boks (South African Rugby) they whipped our “ass”. @ConsNZ was definitely smiling .

Anyway, I did the waterways and margin plank on the upper quarter deck. I looks way to symmetrical for the style of the rest of the ship so hopefully a few irregular deck planks will break this.

Grant,

The waterways look super, unlike the Springbok's!

I've always been fascinated how a small island nation can field such competitive team year in and year out. Kerr's book Legacy is a great read but maybe too painful for you, this soon after the game.

I'm sure you'll find a unique and stylized way to complete the quarterdeck planking so it complements the rest of your asymmetrical display technique. Looking forward to your solution...as much as you're probably looking forward to a rematch!

Thanks for sharing your wonderful photos!

 

[ConsNZ]

Good morning from a South Africa in mourning…..on Saturday the All Blacks (New Zealand rugby team) didn’t just beat the Boks (South African Rugby) they whipped our “ass”. @ConsNZ was definitely smiling .

Anyway, I did the waterways and margin plank on the upper quarter deck. I looks way to symmetrical for the style of the rest of the ship so hopefully a few irregular deck planks will break this.

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Cheers Grant

Awesome job on the Enterprise --- regarding the All Blacks, when they lose our economy crashes, alcoholism increases, divorces skyrocket substantionally and depression peaks at an alarming rate and the team doesn't get a Pie and a Pint per member when they return. - Cheers.

 

[ConsNZ]

Grant,

The waterways look super, unlike the Springbok's!

I've always been fascinated how a small island nation can field such competitive team year in and year out. Kerr's book Legacy is a great read but maybe too painful for you, this soon after the game.

I'm sure you'll find a unique and stylized way to complete the quarterdeck planking so it complements the rest of your asymmetrical display technique. Looking forward to your solution...as much as you're probably looking forward to a rematch!

Thanks for sharing your wonderful photos!

Ahem, ahem! we are not just a small island we are simply too big for our boots

 

[Lorenzo]

Don't worry, Grant; we'll avenge you at the next World Cup—if we qualify, that is.


Salud

 

[GrantTyler]

Good morning Grant,
It looks beautiful just like all of your work!

Thank you kindly Peter

That would be a tough one for me, there is so much beautiful architecture below the deck beams to cover it randomly will be tricky. Or maybe not.

Good morning Daniel. I will have to play around and see if a smattering of irregular planks look good or not.

 

[GrantTyler]

well done Grant
Too bad for the boks last week end

Thank you Gilbert. Yep very sad, the All Blacks are now no. 1 in the world......we will have to come back this Saturday....hopefully.

She continues to be a beauty.

A question for which I have not ever been able to find an answer based on contemporary sources...... for the gun ports on the upper gun deck in the area of the waist where no lids were used, why wouldn't the hull planking cover the entire lower sill and frames to form the gunport like it does with the spirketting inboard? I have no idea if there was a rule on this, just curious if there was a consensus among ship builders in the age of sail. Looking at a couple models at Preble Hall, the planking comes up short like at the ports with lids (and which you have faithfully duplicated on your model). This is probably a question with no answer from those days and of little import but inquiring minds and all that.

Thanks
Allan


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Good morning Allan. I have no idea. Claude AI says the hull planking does not cover the entire sill, however the spirketting does cover the inboard plank. I understand the external function when there are lids, but I don't see a reason when there are no lids.........maybe somebody has the answer . Such cool pics, maybe one day in a galaxy far far away I will be able to get one of my ships looking so......

Grant,

The waterways look super, unlike the Springbok's!

I've always been fascinated how a small island nation can field such competitive team year in and year out. Kerr's book Legacy is a great read but maybe too painful for you, this soon after the game.

I'm sure you'll find a unique and stylized way to complete the quarterdeck planking so it complements the rest of your asymmetrical display technique. Looking forward to your solution...as much as you're probably looking forward to a rematch!

Thanks for sharing your wonderful photos!

Thanks Brad, I have read Kerr's book although quite a while ago. Some very good life lessons as well - I remember the "No dickheads" very well. Without a doubt the AB have consistently been the best team in the world over the years- must be the clean air down in NZ....
I am going to layout the deck furniture and some planks to see if I can get a good irregular fit to suite the rest of my ship and keep a prominent look through........hmm.

Awesome job on the Enterprise --- regarding the All Blacks, when they lose our economy crashes, alcoholism increases, divorces skyrocket substantionally and depression peaks at an alarming rate and the team doesn't get a Pie and a Pint per member when they return. - Cheers.

Thank you kindly Sir. This is where we are this week.....

Ahem, ahem! we are not just a small island we are simply too big for our boots

Don't worry, Grant; we'll avenge you at the next World Cup—if we qualify, that is.

Salud

Good morning Salud......Yea however you guys are the football world champs

Cheers Grant

 

[AllanKP69]

Such cool pics, maybe one day in a galaxy far far away I will be able to get one of my ships looking so......

Based on your work if you are not already there, you are about to be.

Regarding the photos, this is off track, sorry. I had the good fortune to spend time at Preble Hall and take a lot of photos long before the Rogers Collection books came out. One of the trips included meeting with two friends, Wayne Kempson and Ed Tosti for a personal tour with Grant Walker. It was awesome being part of that knowledgeable and talented group.

Allan

 

[RogerD]

Grant,

From now on I will just copy and paste all of the superlative comments from others' posts

I've run out of other thoughts that might be added to this brilliant log...

Big Cheers!!!!

Totally agree with John’s post. Remarkable build Grant.

 

[RussF]

A question for which I have not ever been able to find an answer based on contemporary sources...... for the gun ports on the upper gun deck in the area of the waist where no lids were used, why wouldn't the hull planking cover the entire lower sill and frames to form the gunport like it does with the spirketting inboard? I have no idea if there was a rule on this, just curious if there was a consensus among ship builders in the age of sail. Looking at a couple models at Preble Hall, the planking comes up short like at the ports with lids (and which you have faithfully duplicated on your model). This is probably a question with no answer from those days and of little import but inquiring minds and all that.

I may have the answer to that, but first, an anecdote -

Some time ago, a group of animal behavior scientists decided to do an experiment. They took five rhesus monkeys and put them in a large cage. Inside the cage was a ramp leading up to the ceiling of the cage where a bunch of bananas was hung. Then the experiment began.

Every time a monkey started climbing the ramp to get a banana, the researchers would spray the other four monkeys with cold water, which they absolutely hated. Very quickly they learned to attack any monkey climbing the ramp so they wouldn't get sprayed. After a while, the researchers stopped spraying the monkeys, but the behavior persisted - no monkey could climb the ramp without getting attacked.

The researchers then substituted a new monkey for one of the veterans. Unaware of the "rule", it quickly headed up the ramp where it was promptly attacked. In no time, the new monkey learned the same behavior. One by one, each veteran monkey was replaced with a new one and each one rapidly learned the "rule".

Eventually, all five of the original monkeys had been replaced and none of the new ones had ever been sprayed with water, yet they still attacked anyone who started up the ramp. None of them knew the real reason why, but they did it BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT HAD ALWAYS BEEN DONE.

And that, my friend, just may be the answer to your query. (Unfortunately, that also holds true for so many things in life.)

 

[AllanKP69]

BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT HAD ALWAYS BEEN DONE.

Thanks Russ
I did more research and some 17th century ships did have port lids for the waist guns so they would have been planked to create a stop on the lower sill and frames that made up the sides of the port. Perhaps when the lids were no longer included the old ways of planking around the gun ports were continued.
Allan

 

[TexBilly]

Grant,

From now on I will just copy and paste all of the superlative comments from others' posts

I've run out of other thoughts that might be added to this brilliant log...

Big Cheers!!!!

Hard to top John's sentiment, Grant - superb work Sir!

 

[GrantTyler]

Totally agree with John’s post. Remarkable build Grant.

Thank you kindly Roger.

Hard to top John's sentiment, Grant - superb work Sir!

Thank you very much Bill.

Cheers
Grant

 

[GrantTyler]

Good morning from a happy SA. Yesterday we managed to hang on and beat the All Blacks (NZ rugby)…..whew .

Made some of the deck fittings and laid out a few planks to start getting an impression of the look and feel- my rule : anything I made on the gun deck must easily be visible as a look through.

Some fun pics of the ship to date:

Cheers Grant
PS: I managed to motivate myself and rig on cannon.

 

[Bryian]

Wow, looking great.

 

[HHIG]

Your model ship building skills are just fantastic!! Very impressive!!

 

[Masters Mate]

Good morning from a happy SA. Yesterday we managed to hang on and beat the All Blacks (NZ rugby)…..whew .

Made some of the deck fittings and laid out a few planks to start getting an impression of the look and feel- my rule : anything I made on the gun deck must easily be visible as a look through.
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Some fun pics of the ship to date:
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Cheers Grant
PS: I managed to motivate myself and rig on cannon.
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Fantastic work Grant. Everything so realistic. A pleasure to watch it develop.

 

[ConsNZ]

Good morning from a happy SA. Yesterday we managed to hang on and beat the All Blacks (NZ rugby)…..whew .

Made some of the deck fittings and laid out a few planks to start getting an impression of the look and feel- my rule : anything I made on the gun deck must easily be visible as a look through.
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Some fun pics of the ship to date:
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Cheers Grant
PS: I managed to motivate myself and rig on cannon.
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Outstanding craftmanship. Absolutely beautiful and super skillful. (congratulations to the Springboks and SA. It was a good game on replay. At present we are in deep mourning. But please be warned of the projected onslaught that will happen in Jo-Burg. )

 

[Namabiiru]

So beautiful, and only now do I realize how big she is!