A 20+ year old Prince

Hi JL,
I am at the beginning also. If you post a build log, we can build together. I did this with another model and we helped each other out along the way. Since there are no other builds of this kit, it would be very beneficial to have 2 going at the same time. What do you think?

Vince
Thats a good idea
 
Hello Vince

I already started a build log of my building, you can see it here:


I haven't updated it for a long time, I have been busy with another builds but recently I came back to that building and I am about to update my post.

I am happy with your idea, I think it can help both. What do you suggest?

We'd better exchange ideas in my thread and not kidnap Yas' one

Best regards

JL
 
Hello Vince

I already started a build log of my building, you can see it here:


I haven't updated it for a long time, I have been busy with another builds but recently I came back to that building and I am about to update my post.

I am happy with your idea, I think it can help both. What do you suggest?

We'd better exchange ideas in my thread and not kidnap Yas' one

Best regards

JL
I just realized we are building different ships. You are building the Prince De Neufchal and I am building the HMS Prince.
Vince
 
I just realized we are building different ships. You are building the Prince De Neufchal and I am building the HMS Prince.
Vince

Well it is an understandable confusion. I'm sorry we are not building the same model, two heads always think better than one and it could be a positive experience.

Maybe next time, or next model.

I wish you a happy building and I intend to follow it.

By the way, HMS Prince was a much more glamorous ship than Prince of Neuchatel, a simple privateer.
Best regards

JL
 
I also have an older Constructo Prince De Neufchâtel. My concern is the rigging plans don’t seem right. Numbered lined for yards come down but no corresponding point to tie them off. Duplicate of numbers on formast and boom. Lines come down along mast to a set of double block and shows line coming off last block but not to anything to tie off to.

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Yes, the rigging plans are hard to follow. I’m not too far into the rigging but hope to figure things out as I go and with additional help from research, reference and my Historic Ship Models book. Can’t tell you how many times I got to the model inspired to work, took a look at the plans and my ship, turned and walked right back out of my work space. Ha! Hang in there. Your model is looking great. Here’s where my build stands.

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Yes, the rigging plans are hard to follow. I’m not too far into the rigging but hope to figure things out as I go and with additional help from research, reference and my Historic Ship Models book. Can’t tell you how many times I got to the model inspired to work, took a look at the plans and my ship, turned and walked right back out of my work space. Ha! Hang in there. Your model is looking great. Here’s where my build stands.

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Thanks for the photos you sent. They do help clarify some of the issues. I’ve not got to any rigging yet but am looking ahead to plan Incase I need to adjust the plans. What gets me is on my other models the lines from the yards come down to a belay pin. Here they come down to two blocks at base of mast and that’s ok, but where does the line from the two blocks at base of mast tie off to? I can only think it’s tied off to the top block at base of line.
 
It looks like you know what you are doing despite your not familiar with period ships.
Frustration is like a bat that sucks out our enthusiasm for building model ship.
It happen to me when I started building my first wooden model, but after a few years I picked up the enthusiasm again, built three models and now I’m on my fourth and can’t wait to start my fifth. LOL
 
It looks like you know what you are doing despite your not familiar with period ships.
Frustration is like a bat that sucks out our enthusiasm for building model ship.
It happen to me when I started building my first wooden model, but after a few years I picked up the enthusiasm again, built three models and now I’m on my fourth and can’t wait to start my fifth. LOL
Hey Bluebeard... yeah, the desire to work hits me at the strangest times. I’ve been picking at this project for many years (like your first build) I love it when I do something and I have a hard time stopping once started, but getting started isn’t always easy. Rigging is turning out to be pretty fun and it’s dramatically changed the look of my ship which has been giving me good energy to continue.
 
From what I have seen and read, for most ships the yard ropes came down the mast and attached at base of mast.

Exactly how varied by nation and period. Some had belaying pins, bigger yards had set of pullies at base to make lifting easier on men on deck.
 
Welcome aboard Yas. The work looks nice; hope when I tackle a big ship I can do as nicely.
 
Yes, the rigging plans are hard to follow. I’m not too far into the rigging but hope to figure things out as I go and with additional help from research, reference and my Historic Ship Models book. Can’t tell you how many times I got to the model inspired to work, took a look at the plans and my ship, turned and walked right back out of my work space. Ha! Hang in there. Your model is looking great. Here’s where my build stands.

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How do you coil your gun ropes so tight?
 
How do you coil your gun ropes so tight?
I used 2-sided tape on a piece of wood. Put a nail through it. Wrapped the line around the nail. The tape has enough tackiness to hold it in place. Then while still around the nail and stuck with the tape I brushed the coil with diluted white glue (half water, half glue) to retain my coil shape on deck.
 

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Remembering back a little better Fritz, I think I loosened and removed the nail before painting with glue.
 
Clever idea. You make them with small lead. How do you attach to the gun pulley rope? I’ve rigged the pulleys and have about a 2.5” lead of line to make the coil. Not sure your system would work with the pulleys rigged. Any thoughts?
 
Well Fritz, it’s a cheat. My first cannon rigging attempt was a total disaster. Completely wrong and poorly done. My cannons may still not be historically accurate or period correct but it’s way better than the look I had. Since I didn’t want to completely redo all 18 of my guns, I kept everything up to the cannon’s metal ring, glued it there, then cut the line out of sight just under the ring. Then very carefully with a drop of super glue, attached the end of my coil under the ring where the cut line ended. From every angle (honestly) the rope appears to be passing through the ring and into a nice neat coil. It works for me. Hope it is of some help to you.
 
Well Fritz, it’s a cheat. My first cannon rigging attempt was a total disaster. Completely wrong and poorly done. My cannons may still not be historically accurate or period correct but it’s way better than the look I had. Since I didn’t want to completely redo all 18 of my guns, I kept everything up to the cannon’s metal ring, glued it there, then cut the line out of sight just under the ring. Then very carefully with a drop of super glue, attached the end of my coil under the ring where the cut line ended. From every angle (honestly) the rope appears to be passing through the ring and into a nice neat coil. It works for me. Hope it is of some help to you.
Great idea. And they do look more period than most and better than the instructions show. I’ve been coiling mine but they tend to look more like coiled hose, but better than the straight rope off the block. Some models show no tie downs and I put them in anyway. Another trick I started using was gun blue you can get at Walmart gun area. Used to reblue guns and give a nice age look to the brass. I blue the cannons, cannon balls and some of the eye loops. Some I left shiny as it might be areas a captain would have crew polish. Painting the cannons black was ok but if they chipped putting things together I found myself always doing touch ups.

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Your build is looking awesome. The gun blue sounds great and looks even better for giving the metal bits some authenticity. My model is getting old enough that it seems like a used and vintage appearance is happening naturally. Ha! Keep up the great work over there. Look forward to any updates.
 
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