• LUCZORAMA SHIPWRECK SCAVENGER HUNT GIVEAWAY. 4 Weeks of Fun • 1 Legendary Prize ((OcCre’s Fram Ship)) • Global Crew Welcome!
    **VIEW THREAD HERE**

Decals

Joined
Feb 13, 2025
Messages
3
Points
0
I have completed a 1:100 scale Amati Bluenose. Are name and scroll decals available anywhere?
 
the water slide decal paper works very nicely. scan the drawings then scale m to print the size to fit the model... thats the tough part.

the paper is available from amazon in many different varieties for different printers as well.


you can also do them using drafting pens used for caligraphy... get those from michaels or look it up on anazon. they even have pens in gold n metalics with very fine tips.
 
Last edited:
I tried the DIY waterslide decal/inkjet printer route last year. Typically, waterslide decal paper is blue, and the waterslide film to be printed is clear.

The decals I needed were for draft marks and ship hull numbers - all white. Guess what? Inkjet printers don't print in white. (Dye sublimation maybe, but not standard inkjet printers.) I checked professional print shops in the Phoenix area, and none were either willing or able to do the job.

In the end, I found a great guy to work with in another state who charged 25% of the quote I received from a specialty decal shop in L. A. The decals were as delicate as butterfly foreskins and it took multiple tries with the recommended decal prep and setting solutions to achieve the desired look, but once mastered, I wrote a procedure for next time. I'm about to contact him now for my next set.

If anyone else has a work-around, I'm all ears - and still have lots of decal printer paper left.

CC
 
You would need to be a computer type with the correct software, but I believe that some modelers have solved the “white printing problem” by using white decal paper and printing the black background.

What software is required? I have no idea!

Roger
 
You would need to be a computer type with the correct software, but I believe that some modelers have solved the “white printing problem” by using white decal paper and printing the black background.

What software is required? I have no idea!

Roger
I’ve tried that on plastic models and found it prohibitively difficult to match the decal background to the painted surface. Even with a black background, I found there is no single shade of black.

I have a Japan Air Self Defense Force Light Armored Vehicle adapted from a Ground Self Defense Force version, and to this day I have not figured out how to convincingly replicate the tiny white markings on an olive green background.
 
You would need to be a computer type with the correct software, but I believe that some modelers have solved the “white printing problem” by using white decal paper and printing the black background.

What software is required? I have no idea!

Roger
The software isn't the issue. Lack of white ink is.

I printed test sheets (regular paper) with the proper USN font sized accordingly using PowerPoint to test everything out size-wise on the model using black ink, then sent all the info to the guy doing my decal printing. MS Word works fine too.

I can print multi-color decals just fine on my inkjet printer, scaling different picture formats in Photoshop as required, but printing standalone white lettering isn't going to happen. That takes a different kind of printer/ink for waterslide decals -which are clear. Applied properly, the clear decal film is invisible, which was the intended effect.

The results speak for themselves. The middle shot of the upper rudder was a test rudder taken before final painting. The leading edge draft mark was off and that part scrapped as I learned how much moisture it took to get them to slide without tearing. These are ultra-thin, flexible decals that moisture can breathe through and conform to crevices and other features like a model building's brickwork when a graffiti decal is applied. It really looks painted on and there is no trace of the decal edge when it dries. After that, a matte clear-coating is applied to protect the surface.

Decal Font Scaling Test.JPG


MBT 6 Vent.JPG

Sail and DSRV Sim Decals Applied.JPG
 
Last edited:
The procedure that I mentioned above does not involve printing with white ink. The idea is to use white, not clear decal paper and to then color the background black.

BTW who should we be looking for to “print white.”

Roger
 
Hi Roger,

Do you have any experience (or know anyone) using white waterslide film printed black and trying to color match that to a flat, slightly grey, black hull?

Decals are applied over the painted hull - not the other way around. A clear border is necessary for my applications.


Pre-printed, clear waterslide decals with white draft marks and hull numbers have been supplied in model kits for decades.
Making them at home, on an inkjet printer is another matter, and probably why I haven't heard of anyone actually doing it in any of the modeling forums I frequent.

I can make color decals anytime with my printer - but not with any white ink in them for the reasons stated.

Josh, the owner of Bedlam Creations is a great guy to work with. His website has examples of clear decals with white printing. Tell him CC sent you!

 
Last edited:
I have never tried the white paper decal trick ad know of no one who has done so. I dad about it somewhere.

SSN 683, a late Sturgeon Class boat. I spent 4 years attached to NR with the Kindly Old Gentleman working on the S5W reactor plant.
 
I watched the Kindly Old Gentleman sit down to dine with us and hurl a bowl of his specially-procured ice cream against the bulkhead when it wasn't at his ordered temperature, (he carried a thermometer just for this purpose, I guess.)

Very inspiring to those in attendance indeed. . . I'm sure the CO thought he might lose his command.

His initial contributions were legendary, but his service lasted at least twenty years too long. Power/fame is toxic for most people, and he was no exception.

He destroyed many capable officer's careers on a whim, which I never cared for.

He served sixty-three years of active duty mainly because of his political connections. (He was passed over for admiral twice, (three times and you're out) and had to call in political favors to get selected. So much for merit-based promotions. . .

SecNav Lehman forced him to retire, (@ 83!!!) which I applauded with great vigor and enthusiasm.

The Naval Nuclear Power Program did not suffer one iota as a result of his departure.
 
I had the same problem when I wanted to put very small white draft marks on my Model Shipways USS Constitution. My solution was to put white dry transfer numbers onto the the wet transfer decal paper, Then I sprayed the decal paper with the decal solution as normal. The dry transfer number slid off the wet paper as if they were ink jet printed. My main problem was that my decal paper was also white (I didn't have access to the blue paper type), which made it very difficult to differentiate between where the dry transferer ended, and the decal paper began.

Jon
 
I solved the problem by contacting online somebody who makes and sells fingernail decorations. They have a machine (too expensive to justify buying for myself) which prints these out on a type of thin vinyl, which you peel off and (self) sticking.
I would draw the design I wanted and the size and number required and they did the rest. At a decent price too.
 
I watched the Kindly Old Gentleman sit down to dine with us and hurl a bowl of his specially-procured ice cream against the bulkhead when it wasn't at his ordered temperature, (he carried a thermometer just for this purpose, I guess.)

Very inspiring to those in attendance indeed. . . I'm sure the CO thought he might lose his command.

His initial contributions were legendary, but his service lasted at least twenty years too long. Power/fame is toxic for most people, and he was no exception.

He destroyed many capable officer's careers on a whim, which I never cared for.

He served sixty-three years of active duty mainly because of his political connections. (He was passed over for admiral twice, (three times and you're out) and had to call in political favors to get selected. So much for merit-based promotions. . .

SecNav Lehman forced him to retire, (@ 83!!!) which I applauded with great vigor and enthusiasm.

The Naval Nuclear Power Program did not suffer one iota as a result of his departure.
An interesting event occurred while I was at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. He showed up during the midnight shift (in civilian clothes, of course) and went to board a boat at dockside. The sailor on guard duty at the gangway stopped him and asked for ID. He said: "Don't you know who I am?" The sailor replied: "I don't care if you were Admiral Rickover, you are not getting on board without the proper ID". He stormed off.

In the morning, the sailor was summoned to the shipyard commander's office where Rickover gave him a commendation for a well-done job.
 
In my four years as a naval officer I only had a few face to face encounters with the Admiral other than passing him in the hall. The first was when he interviewed for entrance into the Nuclear Power Program and as it turned out assignment to his engineering staff. The second was after returning from my completion of his Bettis Reactor Engineering School. Both times he was polite but distant as one would expect a admiral to be.

Roger
 
Back
Top