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On a serious note, I’m still on my first wooden ship model, being a carpenter by trade, I stumbled through it, Constructo is a terrible kit to do For your first model, I almost gave up on bending the Sapelly, im at the point of doing all the rigging, I think that’s why Im at a stand still. Not sure where to start.
Try here..... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.woodenboats.lt/Knygos%20public/Modeliavimas/Ship%20Modeling%20Simplified%20Part%203.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiY-qzaipL2AhUmCjQIHZNoCFEQFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1drabmuUGZr7lvsC2EHPFk

It has been a godsend to me...and if you can make sense of Constructo plans/instructions, yer an Architect to boot!!!
 
Jimbo, there is always going to be someone better than you. And me. You just have to deal with that. When I was in my early 20's building R/C planes a guy I worked with showed up at our club. He'd never built a model before but he had set his sights on a glider, 8 foot wingspan, double dihedral. We tried to talk him into something easier but we couldn't. About a month later he showed up with the wing. It was perfect. A lot of us took a real close look at ourselves. As time went by this guy tried all sorts of stuff and excelled at all of them. He tried pottery and inside of a couple of years he had a contract with Hudson's Bay company. Just a natural at building stuff. I've always been considered very good at building stuff by family and friends but I was dog dirt compared to him. All you can do is deal with it.
We are all on our own paths in life.
 
Thank you for all your suggestions and I agree, I think I have bitten off a bit much when picking kits !!
I will have a rethink and start again. You have recovered a lost modeler :) thank you!!
 
Been there! Done that especially over the past week but looking at some of the builds (not the elite ones) some of them I can do. So I move on and find myself a little closer to solving a problem. No one said it would be easy but giving up is not the solution. One step at a time. All of the suggestions arre great and it shows you that you are not alone in this hobby so keep asking questions.
 
Don’t give up Jimbo
A lot of us have been there and know how you feel
It took me 22 years to build my Victory - off and on - but I finished it and am proud of it. Ok it is not museum quality and it is incorrect in so many aspects, but it is mine. I did it. I finished it. And I like it. Stay with it, man
 
I believe this is my first post and it's on a topic near and dear to my heart. Like Jimbo I have the same problem and everyone's advice is spot on (and it was reassuring that others put builds aside at various points and for various reasons).

What do you do with the orphaned builds? When I see them sitting on the shelves in the basement I become even more discouraged and think I might clear some mental bandwidth if I no longer had to see them. The kits are beyond the point where one could sell them (not sure if they're complete) but it feels "wrong" to simply discard them.

Although only I can decide what I do with them I am interested in how others handle orphaned builds.
 
You may have put a great deal of time and effort into whatever you have built and you have to decide if is worth keeping as a reminder of what you did accomplish. If the value isn't there then out it goes is my philosophy.
 
Frustration has visited all of us at some point in our model building. First, step away and take a break. Then try not to focus on the enormous task of building the whole model to someone else’s standards. That can be overwhelming. Focus instead on each small step, part, or procedure. Accomplish that task to your satisfaction. Then take on the next small task or part. One part at a time. One task at a time. Focus on the one…not the whole. Focus on your satisfaction…not someone else’s. Zen for model ship building! :) Of course, a lot of people think the same way about golf!
 
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Jimbo,
you have received a lot of great support and I am proud of our forum for speaking up. My very first model was the Bluenose and I did give up on it - that was over 25 years ago and I did not finish her. Let me say at that time, I did not understand the "process" and "commitment" of building a wooden ship. I was used to the concept of just gluing "parts" together. Wooden ships are "built".
Now, I had to back up and approach this hobby later on in life and I purchased from Model Expo Online the Sultana Colonial Schooner. It is a SOLID hull schooner with a little rigging. I would highly suggest this kit as it has NO planking of the hull. Nice plans and a nice manual. You can finish this and not get discouraged.

It is very easy to find a master piece of a kit - and when we get it, it is a 20 or 30 pound weight box and huge box and when it is opened, it is not expected to see a box full of wooden strips, and some lazer cut parts, etc.

Model Expo Online also has other SOLID hull kits like the New York Pilot boat. Sometimes we may say this kit or that kit is for starters, but in a fact some people may not want to get involved in a long term project, but rather have a kit that will not take as long. In other words, usually the larger (or advanced kits) are just a LONGER TIME commitment - NOT that they are more difficult in the sense. Yes, they are somewhat more difficult, but I almost bet that you just got burned out because you probably realized the commitment it was going to take to complete such a massive build.
 
Jimbo, I'll answer your original question directly. You're now getting this info truthfully, though I may have obscured this answer (or even lied to cover my shame) in other posts: sorry if I've done this... this is confession time...

... here goes...

Yes, I abandoned a model. I'd been used to making increasingly elaborate plastic models of ships, aircraft and the occasional tank. I was in my early '20s and thought I'd build a wooden sailing ship. I made haste to the closest model shop and bought 'Bluenose'. I got as far as the masts and rigging and threw up my arms in horror... I hated it. The model sat unfinished for years. I may have said to people on this site that it was broken when I moved house. That much is true. What I concealed until now is that I was secretly glad at the time: it absolved me of the responsibility of finishing the b****** thing!

I'm now much older. I sincerely regret being pleased by that ship's death (a bit romantic, but so what?)

1) I'm an engineer, so I set things out logically... apologies for that...
2) You've had some sound advice here, the most important is that model making should be fun, and it can be even for modellers of our shared "elder status".
3) Don't ever look at what others do and downrate yourself. I'm a professional mechanical design engineer, but that doesn't mean that I'll make the best models. People here have way more experience of model-making than I have. You can always learn. I learned as an engineer to listen to everyone. The people I listened to most were the ones making the stuff I designed. They had skills I could never hope to match... but I could learn from them. Couldn't equal them, but I came close at times.
4) Your age... had to mention it, you old duffer! I'm of a similar age. My beard is grey, my back is bent, my eyes are old and rotten! Errr... I lapsed into Monty Python there (the beard bit is true... it's long and grey. Oddly, my hair is still black). The point is, I know where you may be coming from. I've spent hours on my ship doing what would have taken me minutes, in my teens. I've just been trying to paint the great cabin windows for my kit. It took an age and I was mainly guessing when the tip of the brush hit the part. I wasn't happy with the result, but my daughter thought it was fine. The point is, you can do it, if I can. It'll take longer, true, but the satisfaction is greater!
5) I'm still wanting to learn and get better. You are too, by the sound of it. I think that people on this site will help (including myself, where I can) and between us, I hope that we'll restore your love/desire for modelling. Let's face it, you wouldn't have posted this if you had no desire to continue modelling.
6) I don't want to sound like some politically correct moron. What I say is what I mean: I'm a Northerner, when all's said and done. Hope you want to continue, but it's up to you.

I say do it and I'm confident that everyone here will do their best to help.

Edit: One of the reasons I abandoned 'Bluenose' was that I didn't have all the tools. I know what you'll think, and I do too: "A bad workman blames his tools". That's true to a point, but sometimes it's just impossible to make scale models without the correct tools. I have limited tools, but I've bought a number without which I'd have struggled to do what I've done so far and what I plan to do. If you have the money available, don't hesitate to lash out on good tools. You may think: "It's only for this model", but if you love this one, you'll love making more.
 
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i followed this topic from the start and decided to jump in

i give up all the time on projects

some i gave up on because i ran into a dead-end on research

sometimes i made a big enough mistake i can not recover from other than starting over, which a usually don't do.

some builds i lost interest in

sometimes i get bored with it

maybe it is taking way to long and i realized it is bigger project that i expected.

most of the time the models i build are prototypes "proof of concept" i am building to check my drawings, build to see if it can be built, something like the Tecumseth is built as a reconstruction to show what it might of looked like.
Once i get to a point of general construction, how it looked, proof the drawing work out, or just good enough i stop and abandon the project and skip the finer details or the obvious details and move on.

so you can say on one hand it is rare i finish any one model because i got the information i needed
on the other hand you can say i give up on one project after another BUT i never give up on the hobby of model ship building or the pursuit of knowledge of the subject.
 
build for the fun of it, not to be as good as or better than anyone else. Nobody here will judge you.
Right now I'm building the Pride of Baltimore II and am in the process of figuring out how to simply the running rigging. I know that my simplification won't be "correct" but I'd rather do that than hate the whole process. What I'm wanting is a ship that looks identifyingly like a Baltimore Clipper for display, not historic perfection.
 
Hi Jimbo,

Hang in there. Remember it is your model and you decide what's right - don't let others tell you anything else. You learn as you go and you decide how far that will be. For lots of reasons (i.e. life) I stopped building models in my late teens and didn't re-start until the summer of 2020 - at 66. It has been a fun sail so far, and while I haven't tackled any of the ships you listed, I've built some interesting ones - full rigged solid and POF hulls, small boats, wagons, aircraft engines and now the Wright Flyer. Have gotten to the point where, even though I have my sights set on eventually building the USS Constitution at some point, I'm having fun with my spur-of-the moment decisions. I'm currently working on my most challenging & complicated model to date - the Wright Flyer - and on my patience and motivation. As I'm still working full-time, what I've found helps keep the model going and in focus is looking at it in small chunks that can be accomplished in an hour or 2 each day during the week with longer sessions on the weekend (when not out hiking). Good luck and have fun!
@JohnR, you have said what I was thinking. Have fun, don’t worry about what others will say, it’s “your story” and that’s always valid.
 
This is unrelated to ships, but many, many hears ago I wanted to build my first radio controlled airplane model. I researched, bought plans (not as many nice kits then), trying to decide between a Curtiss P-40 or Hawker Tempest or... whatever. I only knew it was going to be a perfect scale large replica of the real plane.

I'd mentioned my interest to a business associate of mine, and he had an old "Galloping Ghost" single channel radio control unit, minus battery. So I researched the plans for the plane to be used with it, bought a battery, engine, parts for the build, spending about $100, surprisingly (that was a fair amount of money then).

Anyhow, I built it up, glide tested it as best I could, and threw it into flight (the engine not being powerful enough to take off from the available grass surface). It made a gentle curve to the left and crashed lightly. Some trim control adjustments later, I got it into flight, and flew it for a while. Quite enjoyable. But not being experienced, I let it get a bit too far away, and I couldn't respond well to the controls (it wasn't out of range), so it spun into the ground, bending the back of the fuselage quite a bit.

But I learned:
  1. Never start out building your ultimate build; you need to acquire more skills first.
  2. Flying a simple aircraft is as much fun as flying a fancy, scale one.
  3. When first learning to fly, don't start out with an irreparable museum piece.
  4. I had fun building the model, had fun flying it, and saved myself hundreds of dollars and hours by not building my perfect P-40.
The Galloping Ghost could get three movements (rudder, elevator and throttle) out of a single channel. If you'd like to know how, Watch This Video.

Here's my GG before the first flight:
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I have to chime in. "Give UP"??? Oh yeah I've been there. My first build was a Birthday Gift. I made innumerable mistakes, had many a moment where the build almost became "KINDLING", I had no idea what I was doing, but fortunately I found this Forum. Many times I hesitated posting a step (you can only build one step at a time) to my build log, but no matter how bad my effort was (due to my skill set being non existent ) the many positive responses kept the build moving forward. I've completed several other builds since then, have several in progress. I am way beyond the "Give UP" , stage still a novice builder and mostly bumbling along doing the best I can using the skill set learned to date, reading other build logs to learn new build steps, etc. As for age, I'll be 80 years young in several weeks, have many of the ailments that go with the age and for the most part I'm still learning as I go and with no plans on "Giving Up" this great hobby.

Jan
 
I have to chime in. "Give UP"??? Oh yeah I've been there. My first build was a Birthday Gift. I made innumerable mistakes, had many a moment where the build almost became "KINDLING", I had no idea what I was doing, but fortunately I found this Forum. Many times I hesitated posting a step (you can only build one step at a time) to my build log, but no matter how bad my effort was (due to my skill set being non existent ) the many positive responses kept the build moving forward. I've completed several other builds since then, have several in progress. I am way beyond the "Give UP" , stage still a novice builder and mostly bumbling along doing the best I can using the skill set learned to date, reading other build logs to learn new build steps, etc. As for age, I'll be 80 years young in several weeks, have many of the ailments that go with the age and for the most part I'm still learning as I go and with no plans on "Giving Up" this great hobby.

Jan
 
There's some good advice here... and some confessions! I hope we'll hear from you, Jimbo.
I have to chime in. "Give UP"??? Oh yeah I've been there. My first build was a Birthday Gift. I made innumerable mistakes, had many a moment where the build almost became "KINDLING", I had no idea what I was doing, but fortunately I found this Forum. Many times I hesitated posting a step (you can only build one step at a time) to my build log, but no matter how bad my effort was (due to my skill set being non existent ) the many positive responses kept the build moving forward. I've completed several other builds since then, have several in progress. I am way beyond the "Give UP" , stage still a novice builder and mostly bumbling along doing the best I can using the skill set learned to date, reading other build logs to learn new build steps, etc. As for age, I'll be 80 years young in several weeks, have many of the ailments that go with the age and for the most part I'm still learning as I go and with no plans on "Giving Up" this great hobby.

Jan
What can I say? I do struggle to get my 1000 cc bike out of the kitchen (yes, kitchen), My eyes are definitely too blurred with fine painting details, but... I feel like a spring chicken after reading that. I'll be 56 in a month. From your account I've got a good 24 years worth of making models still to come! That plane is lovely. You must have spent a long time getting the gloss coat right.
 
You sound exactly like me when I started.... DO NOT GIVE UP !!!!! an ole timer told me once , have to mess things up before you get " Good "
Started out with erector sets and log houses, lanyards, tree houses , etc.
Done the $$$$ stuff too , let it lay , I'm no good at this. Then I just said to myself " Not gonna let it beat me "
Model cars, planes, r/c stuff, boats, trains. After several years of messing things up , I stayed with it , now I'm a Master Model builder.
You can use your talents and creativity to build whatever........
If you want more pointers , let me know , and do not throw anything out .... instead throw out your not good enough and get the experience of becoming a Master Model Builder.
GK the Builder
 
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