H.M.S Enterprise 1:96 (Modelship Dockyard)

I think any ship purists should stay away from this scale and opt for a larger one. This kit looks fantastic for this scale.
The detail and attention to build is incredible.
 
Frank48 said:
Hi , with all due respect to your work but , this drawing does not convince me, Thank you.Frank
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wuxiaomeng said:
View attachment 493946According to the original drawings of the enterprise account, the ribs were not spliced in the opposite direction
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Hi , I observed with enlargement that the posted drawing depicting the arrangement of the frames reversed from the middle of the hull, I attach your image and others.Thank you.Frank

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As i said earlier. If you are a purist then go for a bigger model to get more detail. To me, if i could build anywhere near as beautiful as this model, i would be one happy man.
The majority of modellers try to build a nice looking ship and not too worried about museum pieces.
I just love this model.
 
neilm said:
As i said earlier. If you are a purist then go for a bigger model to get more detail. To me, if i could build anywhere near as beautiful as this model, i would be one happy man.
The majority of modellers try to build a nice looking ship and not too worried about museum pieces.
I just love this model.
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Hi neilm , very much agree on YOUR opinion my point is only for information but since you always dispute here on my information I will get over it.
Frank
 
I think Frank were a little confused here,the frames are reveresed at midship in the kit too!!
 
neilm said:
Even more confused now. Is there a clearer diagram and explanation. ?
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The framing disposition plan may not be for the Enterprise, as it is identified as being for the Medea (1778) and Crescent (1779), both 28-gun sixth rates built at Bristol by Hilhouse. It MAY be the same on Enterprise, as these were in the Enterprise class of ships. High resolution copies of the Medea plan can be purchased from RMG. C ID designation is HIL0079 Lacking better information the drawing for the Medea I would be very comfortable using it for a model of any Enterprise class ship. Construction details can be found in various books such as Goodwin's The Construction and Fitting of the English Man of War. Scantlings of each futtock of each frame can be found in Scantlings of Royal Navy Ships which covers 1719 to early 19th century dimensions. For exact dimensions of all the parts of an Enterprise class 28 gun ship, the original contract I found with a little digging is probably the best source. The paragraphs pertaining to the framing follows. Spelling, etc is as in the original contract.

Allan
ROOM & SPACE The Room & Space of the Timbers to be 2 ft 2⅝ ins, or agreeable to the Spacings of the Frames on the Draught.



FLOOR TIMBERS The Floor Timbers, between Timber 5 & Timber C in the Bearing of the Ship to be sided 12 ins, & from 5 to 19 aft & from C to M forward inclusive sided 11 ins, & from 19 aft, & M forward sided 10 ins, to be in length in Mids18 ft 6 ins, afore & abaft as the Draught directs.



CHOCKS No Chock to be larger on any Floor Timber than will admit of one foot whole Wood below the cutting down in & out, & afore & abaft to increase as the shape of the timber may require for strength, to be moulded at the heads 9⅛ ins, in & & Afore & abaft 9¼ ins. Every other floor timber

To be bolted thro the main Keel & the bolts carefully clenched before the false Keel is put under with bolts of 1 ¼ ins diamtr

LOWER FUTTOCKs The Lower Futtocks in Mids between 5 & C inclusive to be sided 12 ins, & from M to 19 inclusive to be sided 11 ins, from thence forward & aft to be sided 10 ins, to run down to the Deadwood, & not less than 5 ins whole wood there, to have Chocks across the heels of the them to supply the wood that may be wanting from thence to the cutting down or inside of the floor timbers to have 5 ft 11 ins scarph to the second futtocks in &, & not less than 5 ft 6 ins afore & abaft, or agreeable to what the Draught expresses, & to be in & out at the Heads 8⅝ ins



SECOND DITTO The Second Futtocks to be sided between 19 & M inclusive 10 ¾ ins, from hence forward & aft 10 ins, to have 5 ft 11 ins scarph to the futtocks in &, & as the draught directs afore & abaft; to be in & out, or moulded at the heads 8 ins, afore & abaft the same.



THIRD DITTO The third futtocks in Mids to be sided 10 ½ ins afore & abaft 10 ins & to have scarph to the upper futtocks 5 ft 11 ins in Mids, & not less than

5 ft 6 ins afore & abaft except such as come under ports which are to continue up to the underside of the lower sills, moulded at the heels Mids 7 ⅛ ins afore & abaft the same



FOURTH DITTO The fourth futtocks in Mids to be sided 10 ½ ins afore & abaft 10 ins and to run up to the topside but such as make the sides of the ports and all those appointed to be sided 11 ins after the timbers are trimmed to the bigness of the ports & those appointed to make the sides of the said ports as well as those that come under the main and fore channels run up as high as high as the top of the side in Mids & afore & abaft sufficient to receive the upper sill of the port and as much higher as can be got.



TOP TIMBERS… The top timbers to be sided at the heels & upper futtock heads 10 ½ ins and at the top of the side 10 ins, to be well grown young Timber, & those appointed to make the sides of the ports, sided 11 ins, quite free from sap or wane when the port is trimmed out, & that there remains whole Wood clear of the bitt of the sill, not less than 9 ins, moulded in & out of the Top Timber Head 3 ins, & forward in wake of the timber heads 4 ins.



FRAME That every other timber is to be framed, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th futtocks & top Timbers together, & bolted with 2 bolts of 1 in diar in each scarph & the heels of the double futtocks to the deadwood & in those stations described on the draught & that great care be taken to dispose the other timbers between them so justly that of the frame so justly so that as few as possible be cut off by the ports, that proper timbers fairly grown, without being grain cut, be provided for port timbers the contrary of which must by no means be dispensed with that the head and heels of all Timbers hold square at least one third of their bigness the Moulding way the whole frame to be young, sound & good, as much as possible, free from sap & wane, & both workmanship & materials to be in no respect inferior to what is done in His Majesty’s Yards~~~~~~~~~
 
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