HMS Enterprise 1774 POF 1:48.

Albert Mary said:
I run into the same problem with my hoy. A missing part is conceivabe, not so does a beam with pockets in wrong position, but this is it. Now all trust in CAF customer care, btw. Cheers!
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Good morning Alberto. It is very strange. I picked up another beam with the same issue (no 24). I’m sure Tom will come to the party and sort this out.
Daniel20 said:
Man, your build looks challenging enough as it is. Kudos for discovering the numbering errors, you just saved yourself much headache, cussing etc.
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Good morning Daniel. Yeah let’s hope there are no more. I already did some cussing ROTF - not too much tho.
Cheers Grant
 
AllanKP69 said:
Hi Grant
How many tiers of carlings on each side are there in the fore and aft area of the main hatch?
Thanks
Allan
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Hi Allan. Not 100% sure what you are querying. On the CAF build there are 2 deck levels displayed as shown by lines1 and 2 below:
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There are 25 deck beams making up 25 tiers/sections of carlings.
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What I do know is that the carlings and beam pattern on this plan is not 100% accurate especially at the bow.
Cheers Grant
 
Good morning Gentlemen
While I wait for the new parts I am going to deviate to deck beams and carlings etc.

Firstly I need to poly the internal frames below the clamp line. I was very happy, indeed, how the Cherry came out. It looks way better in real life and try as I may I couldn’t share this with you guys:
Some pics:
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Very chuffed and then ……
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I knew this was going to happen just not while it is still in the cradle ROTF ROTF ROTF
Cheers Grant
 
GrantTyler said:
Good morning Gentlemen
While I wait for the new parts I am going to deviate to deck beams and carlings etc.

Firstly I need to poly the internal frames below the clamp line. I was very happy, indeed, how the Cherry came out. It looks way better in real life and try as I may I couldn’t share this with you guys:
Some pics:
View attachment 516330View attachment 516332View attachment 516331View attachment 516333
Very chuffed and then ……
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I knew this was going to happen just not while it is still in the cradle ROTF ROTF ROTF
Cheers Grant
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Auch...
 
GrantTyler said:
There are 25 deck beams making up 25 tiers/sections of carlings.
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That drawing shows what I meant. Sorry for any confusion. From the contract and your drawing below.

Lower deck
To have 3 tier of fir Carlings on each side from the second room before the Main Hatch, to the second room abaft the main mast room,
from thence forward & Abaft to have 2 tiers, the Carlings to be 6 ¼ ins broad, & 5½ ins deep, to be scored on upon the Beams 1⅛ ins aloft, & ¾ ins below, The ledges to be of fir 3¾ ins broad, & 3½ ins deep, to be placed not more the 12 ins, nor less than 9 ins asunder. All the Carlings & ledges from the fore hatch forward to be of oak

Upper Deck
To have 3 Tier of Carlings on each side from the second room abaft the main mast room to the second room afore the main hatch, from thence forward to have 2 tier, & in wake of the forecastle to be of oak, the Carlings to be 7 ins broad, & 5½ ins deep; the ledges also to be oak in wake of the said forecastle & from the mizen mast aft to have half beams to be let into oak carlings of sufficient distance from the side to shift the knees, the half beams to be fir 7 ins broad, & 5 ins deep.

I may be misinterpreting the phrase "to the second room" but have shown what I THINK they mean on the second version of drawing below. In the end, if the decks are planked, it will never be seen anyway.

Allan
Enterprise carling layout comparison.PNG
 
AllanKP69 said:
That drawing shows what I meant. Sorry for any confusion. From the contract and your drawing below.

Lower deck
To have 3 tier of fir Carlings on each side from the second room before the Main Hatch, to the second room abaft the main mast room,
from thence forward & Abaft to have 2 tiers, the Carlings to be 6 ¼ ins broad, & 5½ ins deep, to be scored on upon the Beams 1⅛ ins aloft, & ¾ ins below, The ledges to be of fir 3¾ ins broad, & 3½ ins deep, to be placed not more the 12 ins, nor less than 9 ins asunder. All the Carlings & ledges from the fore hatch forward to be of oak

Upper Deck
To have 3 Tier of Carlings on each side from the second room abaft the main mast room to the second room afore the main hatch, from thence forward to have 2 tier, & in wake of the forecastle to be of oak, the Carlings to be 7 ins broad, & 5½ ins deep; the ledges also to be oak in wake of the said forecastle & from the mizen mast aft to have half beams to be let into oak carlings of sufficient distance from the side to shift the knees, the half beams to be fir 7 ins broad, & 5 ins deep.

I may be misinterpreting the phrase "to the second room" but have shown what I THINK they mean on the second version of drawing below. In the end, if the decks are planked, it will never be seen anyway.

Allan
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Hi Allan, sure with these kit designs there is to go crazy but , good modeling.Frank
 
Your frames look fantastic Grant ... well ... um ... except for a couple. ROTF It's modeling rule #53 - "Any part that protrudes, no matter how much or how little, WILL be snagged and broken." I had a couple like that on Oseberg, I just didn't show them. Shhh... ROTF
 
Tobias said:
Hello Grant, it's always annoying when parts are missing. But the nice thing is that Tom is really super nice and sends the missing or defective parts immediately. Your frames turned out absolutely perfect, and the entire hull also looks very clean.
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Hi Tobias. Thank you very much. It can be very frustrating however it is what it is. My experience with Tom from CAF is very good so far. I’m sure he will deliver. Cheers Grant
 
GrantTyler said:
Good morning Gentlemen
While I wait for the new parts I am going to deviate to deck beams and carlings etc.

Firstly I need to poly the internal frames below the clamp line. I was very happy, indeed, how the Cherry came out. It looks way better in real life and try as I may I couldn’t share this with you guys:
Some pics:
View attachment 516330View attachment 516332View attachment 516331View attachment 516333
Very chuffed and then ……
View attachment 516334
I knew this was going to happen just not while it is still in the cradle ROTF ROTF ROTF
Cheers Grant
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Hi Grant
Very nice color
 
GrantTyler said:
Good morning Gentlemen
While I wait for the new parts I am going to deviate to deck beams and carlings etc.

Firstly I need to poly the internal frames below the clamp line. I was very happy, indeed, how the Cherry came out. It looks way better in real life and try as I may I couldn’t share this with you guys:
Some pics:
View attachment 516330View attachment 516332View attachment 516331View attachment 516333
Very chuffed and then ……
View attachment 516334
I knew this was going to happen just not while it is still in the cradle ROTF ROTF ROTF
Cheers Grant
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I voted your post with a ‘WOW’, Grant. Because of the nice and warm wood colors after the poly. And also because of the broken ‘spider leg’. Those pointing parts can give you shivers. Maybe a little plankt of some foam over the top for protection?
Regards, Peter
 
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AllanKP69 said:
That drawing shows what I meant. Sorry for any confusion. From the contract and your drawing below.

Lower deck
To have 3 tier of fir Carlings on each side from the second room before the Main Hatch, to the second room abaft the main mast room,
from thence forward & Abaft to have 2 tiers, the Carlings to be 6 ¼ ins broad, & 5½ ins deep, to be scored on upon the Beams 1⅛ ins aloft, & ¾ ins below, The ledges to be of fir 3¾ ins broad, & 3½ ins deep, to be placed not more the 12 ins, nor less than 9 ins asunder. All the Carlings & ledges from the fore hatch forward to be of oak

Upper Deck
To have 3 Tier of Carlings on each side from the second room abaft the main mast room to the second room afore the main hatch, from thence forward to have 2 tier, & in wake of the forecastle to be of oak, the Carlings to be 7 ins broad, & 5½ ins deep; the ledges also to be oak in wake of the said forecastle & from the mizen mast aft to have half beams to be let into oak carlings of sufficient distance from the side to shift the knees, the half beams to be fir 7 ins broad, & 5 ins deep.

I may be misinterpreting the phrase "to the second room" but have shown what I THINK they mean on the second version of drawing below. In the end, if the decks are planked, it will never be seen anyway.

Allan
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Thanks Allan. I now know what 3 and 2 tier carlings are :D. I’m not going to make any changes to the kit carlings - right now I’m just trying to make this a reasonable model. ROTF. Cheers Grant
 
RussF said:
Your frames look fantastic Grant ... well ... um ... except for a couple. ROTF It's modeling rule #53 - "Any part that protrudes, no matter how much or how little, WILL be snagged and broken." I had a couple like that on Oseberg, I just didn't show them. Shhh... ROTF
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Thank you kindly Russ. Rule #53….I guess I broke that ruleROTF. Cheers Grant
 
Peter Voogt said:
I voted your post with a ‘WOW’, Grant. Because of the nice and warm wood colors after the poly. And also because of the broken ‘spider leg’. Those pointing parts can give you shivers. Maybe a little plankton some foam over the top for protection?
Regards, Peter
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Good evening Peter and thank you. You are correct, I should think of protecting those spindly little things. I did say I would break them when I fitted them. :rolleyes:. I will probably remove the other two and leave them off until the last minute. Cheers Grant
 
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