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HMS Sovereign of the Seas - Bashing DeAgostini Beyond Believable Boundaries

RussF said:
I'm sure it has been said before, but I just have not had time to read every single post on this thread - it just boggles my mind that you are able to pull this much detail from a photo of an engraving! For example, the anchor and crown a few posts back - I would never have even seen that, let alone figure out what it was supposed to be. Also truly amazing is that this is from an engraving! I don't know what the medium was, but can you imagine the pain-staking hours necessary to to inscribe all those little, tiny lines? One also has to wonder what Payne (I assume this is from Payne's engraving) used for reference. Obviously he couldn't refer to a photo. Was the vessel in one place long enough for him to carry his tools to the dock and work on it there? Did he first make a pencil sketch - even that must have required an enormous amount of time to record that level of detail.

And then for you to interpret it so well and render it in 3D. My hat is off to you sir!
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I am amazed at the detail of Payne's engraving myself! What and incredible work in copper! You don't see lots of mistakes where lines cross over each other by accident. The engraving was made before the ship was completed, and the masts and rigging are artist's rendering. The rigging is accurate to the time, so the artist must have known a lot about ship design. I don't know how far along the ship was in construction when the engraving was made, and perhaps the engraving itself was used to plan the carvings. There are more questions surrounding this ship than answers. I have a high resolution image of this engraving to work with. It would be great if the left and right halves of the engraving print matched up better at the center, and to make a digital correction is beyond my weak photoshop skills. I'd love to make a giant poster of this engraving to hang on my wall behind the model when it's done. :D
 
Namabiiru said:
Someone correct me to 100%, but is the motto German for, “I serve”?
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Hey Namabiiru,

you're right. It is correct in today's grammar to say I serve.
But:
The correct spelling is "Ich dien", and it means "I serve" in German. The phrase is an old German word and is the motto of the British Prince of Wales. It is the conjugated form of the verb dienen.

Best regards
Günther Ship-1
 
The decoration objects were completed and converted to a bas relief. This decoration panel is finished. The nymph in this image has been surmized to9 be Galathea, but a lower creature such as Galathea is not important enough to have a godly chariot, and the wings show that the figure may have been an air nymph. As such, who the figure in the chariot is supposed to represent is still unclear, as is the male figure in a chariot opposite the Crown Prince's badge farther forward.
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Kurt, hello! There could be no pants on a male figure. Palaemon is a hero of ancient Greek myths. The ancient Greeks and Romans did not wear pants, only loincloths. Pants would be invented by the barbarians and Germans much later.
Wood carvers followed the style of Ancient Greek sculptures and were unable to depict trousers.

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iutar said:
Kurt, hello! There could be no pants on a male figure. Palaemon is a hero of ancient Greek myths. The ancient Greeks and Romans did not wear pants, only loincloths. Pants would be invented by the barbarians and Germans much later.
Wood carvers followed the style of Ancient Greek sculptures and were unable to depict trousers.

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I was aware of this, and sometimes using pre-made assets as a shortcut has its disadvantages. I suppose I can go back and fix that.

There you go! I even put his junk back on. . . :D
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DARIVS ARCHITECTVS said:
Greetings from the south shore of Lake Superior! I am camping on the lakeshore, but brought my laptop to get another decoration for the ship made.
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The models for the next decoration were made, supposedly Bellerophontes mounting a beast of some kind.
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Wow, what a muscular physique, although I think Palaemon might have a little more to .. um .. be proud of. :cool:

Enjoy your trip and may the weather gods smile down upon you!
 
RussF said:
Wow, what a muscular physique, although I think Palaemon might have a little more to .. um .. be proud of. :cool:

Enjoy your trip and may the weather gods smile down upon you!
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Steroids have side effects... Actually, I didn't want it to be the CENTRAL FOCUS of the sculpture, but also didn't want to leave anything out.
 
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