HMS Victory

I have researched this as well and I would say the consensus of most is that for the last few years, the Caldercraft is considered the best. However, Artesania Latina has recently put out their new versiona and it looks very intriquing. I was all set for the Caldercraft but I am now in a holding pattern after watching the Artesania promo videos. Here are my thoughts:

1)The caldercraft is established as best in class. Good instructions, well made pieces and tons of build logs/videos to help guide you. Fairly expensive ... but not out of line.

2)The new AL version is open hull. At first I did not like this, but now I am intruiqued with the internal details that are now available. It opens up a whole new level model making. There are no written instructions...only videos. Not all videos are published yet, but the ones to date seem to be complete and very will made. There is one build log on this site that I am following.

I might end up building both...lol. The videos from AL have me hooked...they are so well produced. I am hoping to see a complete build log from members so that I can get a sense of it reality matches the hype of the videos.

I don't think you can go wrong with either. I guess it depends if you like the open hull concept and the benefits of building the lower decks of the ship....I think AL did a very nice job of bring life to the lower decks...especially with light kit added.

Good luck deciding.
 
Thanks for all the tips and opinions, in the end I chose Victory from Caldercraft.
Here is some info about HMS Diana that I am building now.
I bought a kit of HMS Diana in China when I was on a business trip, I bought it mostly for fun. When I got home and opened it I discovered that this was a cheap copy of Caldercraft and there was no manual or drawings. No cannons or decorations were included. My first thought was to throw it in the trash right away, but decided instead to build it. The only thing I used from the kit was the skeleton itself as all the wood was lousy. As help I have used pictures from the internet and the book "Anatomy of Diana".
It was a pretty fun build when you had to make and replace all the parts, the 3D printer has been a good friend in the builds.
The build is far from authentic and the focus has been on having fun.
I ordered the HMS Victory kit from Caldercraft yesterday which will be my next build.
They would also send me drawings of the mast and rigging for Diana, I will really need these to finish building Diana.

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Sameo_Patrik said:
Super high quality and good instructions is what i want, price is not an issue, I am building Diana right now and i need to replace lot of woods. make parts that is missing and i have no instructions for this model except for the anatomi book and pictures from internet, so for Victory i feel high quality and instructions for rigging and some details would be nice ;-)
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I would suggest not getting the Corel version.
 
Sameo_Patrik said:
They would also send me drawings of the mast and rigging for Diana
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This is a great idea. I am curious to see how they compare with contemporary based information on the masts, spars, and rigging. Drawings of the main masts for a 36 gun and 38 gun frigate of about 1780 can be found on the RMG Collections website. The drawing matches pretty closely to the formulas by James Lees in The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War. Using his formula Lower deck length plus extreme beam/2 (146'+39')/2= 92' 6" See below. Keep in mind the drawing is from 1780 and the masts on ships rigged from about 1794 were slightly longer. Pick your poison. :)
Allan
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I have the Occre version sitting on the shelf. I’ll start it later this year or next year after the move to the new house and shop. Having said that, after reading every here in SoS, I might have gone with the Caldercraft myself. I have opened the Occre kit and inventoried it, everything seems extremely well done and of top quality, but that kit is almost twice the cost of the Caldercraft.
 
Warpipes said:
It sure does make it easier to work on the hull. Since I got it, I can't imagine building a ship without it.
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I was looking at that jig, but it seems the maximum keel length is 1000mm, my Victory kit has an 1147mm keel, can the jig be modified to fit a longer keel?
 
The occre kits is more focused on the niche that no one has covered yet, which is the interior. I have the Caldercraft and get the occre, too, but occre will do a fully layered open deck from Orlop to top gun deck and not doing any others stuff just focusing on the detailed of each deck and improving the bit that is missing so I can have a cut out inside out brid eyes view of each deck sadly occre killed the amati 1/64 vic which I have been waiting for `
 
maddog harry said:
The occre kits is more focused on the niche that no one has covered yet, which is the interior. I have the Caldercraft and get the occre, too, but occre will do a fully layered open deck from Orlop to top gun deck and not doing any others stuff just focusing on the detailed of each deck and improving the bit that is missing so I can have a cut out inside out brid eyes view of each deck sadly occre killed the amati 1/64 vic which I have been waiting for `
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I may be misreading, but do you mean the Artesania Latina Victory is focusing on the interior.....I don't believe the Occre kit offers detailed interrier views....it is open hull but no interier details...
 
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