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Sameo_Patrik

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Hi, My next build will be HMS Victory, Which kit is the best and most detailed on the market? Scale about 1:72
 
No matter which you get, it would be wise to have a copy of Longridge's Anatomy of Nelson's Ships next to you. There are used copies available on the cheap
Allan
 
I'm not going to be able to help on this one, but one thing you will need to define is what YOU think is required to be "best". :)
Some people think best is the lowest price.
Others think it is the highest quality of wood
Still others believe that it is top notch instructions.
 
Corsair said:
I'm not going to be able to help on this one, but one thing you will need to define is what YOU think is required to be "best". :)
Some people think best is the lowest price.
Others think it is the highest quality of wood
Still others believe that it is top notch instructions.
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Super high quality and good instructions is what i want, price is not an issue, I am building Diana right now and i need to replace lot of woods. make parts that is missing and i have no instructions for this model except for the anatomi book and pictures from internet, so for Victory i feel high quality and instructions for rigging and some details would be nice ;-)
 
Sameo_Patrik said:
Hi, My next build will be HMS Victory, Which kit is the best and most detailed on the market? Scale about 1:72
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Hey Patrik
I was in the same situation as you a few months back as I had decided to build HMS Victory once my current build is completed (Amerigo Vespucci)
I spent quite a lot of time analyzing and comparing the various kits on the market and watched the various build log on SoS, YouTube or MSW.
I decided to select the Caldercraft kit 1:72 scale and will start the build in a couple of weeks.
I have received the kit (plans, instructions, lumber, photo etched parts, ...) and have to say that the quality is excellent.
As Allan mentions, make sure you get the Longridge book. You can also get the book from McKay (anatomy of a ship).

I am indeed interested in hearing from you regarding your decision and following your build log :)
 
Sameo_Patrik said:
Super high quality and good instructions
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That being the case you may want to consider something other than Victory. Many consider Vanguard Ship Models to offer the best quality considering instructions, materials and accuracy. With so many Victory kits out there they have not offered this ship (so far). But for a large war ship of that era that they do produce look at their Indefatigable (64) 1794.
Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
That being the case you may want to consider something other than Victory. Many consider Vanguard Ship Models to offer the best quality considering instructions, materials and accuracy. With so many Victory kits out there they have not offered this ship (so far). But for a large war ship of that era that they do produce look at their Indefatigable (64) 1794.
Allan
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Thanks, its a good idea and the kit looks good, but it is a bit similar to DIANA which is what i am building right now, maybe another time.
 
Gilbertm said:
Hey Patrik
I was in the same situation as you a few months back as I had decided to build HMS Victory once my current build is completed (Amerigo Vespucci)
I spent quite a lot of time analyzing and comparing the various kits on the market and watched the various build log on SoS, YouTube or MSW.
I decided to select the Caldercraft kit 1:72 scale and will start the build in a couple of weeks.
I have received the kit (plans, instructions, lumber, photo etched parts, ...) and have to say that the quality is excellent.
As Allan mentions, make sure you get the Longridge book. You can also get the book from McKay (anatomy of a ship).

I am indeed interested in hearing from you regarding your decision and following your build log :)
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Yeah, that is the kit i am looking at right now, it looks really good.
 
Hi,
I have the HMS Agamemnon kit by Caldercraft, 1:64 scale on my shelf. The HMS Victory is a sister kit in 1:72 (part of Caldercraft's "Nelson's Navy" Series). If the HMS Agamemnon kit an indication, ( the instructions are comprehensive, the quality of wood is excellent, the availability of period-correct paint and accessories is easy), the Victory kit should be great. Kits by Vanguard Ships are superb, but they don't make a Victory.
AR
 
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Of great importance is to choose a kit that will yield a ship you love regardless of any problems. To help decide which you like best, look at some of the details of the various kits such as the things that will be clearly visible like cannon patterns and rigging materials. It is a big expense in time and money so this kind of in-depth study is probably a few hours well spent. :)

Patrik
Are the scales the same? Indefatigable was a 64 gun 3rd rate with a lower gun deck and upper gun deck. Diana is a 38 gun 5th rate with a single gun deck so very different. If the scales are different I can see how they both might wind up being close in size though and totally understand your concern that they would look similar to the casual observer. Whatever you choose, have fun!!!
Allan
 
Without a doubt, I would recommend Caldercraft. See the replies to my almost identical post on this topic a year ago:

Which "HMS Victory" kit - Caldercraft or Panart?

My research in these forums leads me to understand that a "top of range" HMS Victory kit is one from Caldercraft. The kit from Panart however is half the price and more within my price range (although still relatively expensive). What are the differences between these two kits that would justify...
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I just started the Caldercraft HMS Victory. The quality of the kit is very high. The photo shows the bulkheads and middle gun deck after dry fitting. Everything fits very well. The deck slipped in without any fuss and there are no gaps anywhere.

However, before starting this kit I had to take into account how I will mount it and the huge size of the acrylic display case I will have to make to keep the dust off (here in the Arizona desert dust is a big problem). Also had to take into account the space required to assemble it (constantly rotating it to work on both sides is not an option for me), so when the time come, I will have to move the workbench away from the wall to work on both sides. Just some things to keep in mind when choosing the scale of the kit you decide to build. This particular model is very large at 54.5 inches (138 cm) long and 37 inches (94 cm) tall.
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From what I've read, & seen, in my humble opinion, I would go with Caldercraft.......& a copy of Longridge's!
Rick1011
 
Caldercraft Victory is too big - 7.5" shy of 5' long. That is the only reason that I would not buy it. Best version? That is in the eye of the beholder. I lack the proficiency to bring Victory to a professional-level result whether it be Caldercraft, Occre, or Artesania's version. The bigger the kit, the more difficult it becomes to hide the mistakes. My two cents.
 
One thing to add to the discussion. Amati have ceased moving the development on of their 1/64 kit as it is financially unviable and would result in them making a loss.

Caldercraft, Artesania Anatomy or Occre very much depends on what you want appearance wise. My money might be going on Artesania’s version at some point. There is so much thought gone into the development of this kit, you only need to watch their YouTube vids to realise.

Caldercraft’s kit is very high quality and that is what I would have chosen had Artesania not released their new version
 
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