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Ictineo II 1864 - 1:46 - WoodenKit

Ekis

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Merci beaucoup, Jim Thumbs-Up
And especially thank you for these compliments with the effort to have translated into French! Much appreciated!
Indeed, I do what I can so that kits that I build can please me at the end, even when they are as mediocre as this one.
For the next, I may be interested in a more contemporary boat, like the Endeavour from Amati.
 
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Guns286

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Ekis, I would like to try to scratch build this model. The pictures that you added to this log will be very helpful to me. Do you have the measurements for the length and round bulkheads?
 

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hi,
to be sure to understand: would you like the measurements of each frame in height and width plus the diameter of each?
In fact, it's like you want the whole hull plans, right?
 

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The whole hull plans would be great! Yes, frame height, width and diameter. Any measurements or plans that you could give me would help me a lot.
 

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The whole hull plans would be great! Any measurements or plans that you could give me would help me a lot.
Ok...
I will answer your request. :cool:

In real life, I am artistic director in advertising. In my professional career, I have quite often stolen ideas (for logos, brochures, TV movies or posters).
I still have a little bit of the values of the artistic property of the authors.
I have no consideration for this Russian company that publishes Ictineo II (I wrote above that they themselves used a stolen photo to sell this kit), but somewhere, someone has developed this wooden submarine...

Moreover, we do not know each other. Maybe you're just a business owner in a country where authors' rights do not exist. I can not verify it.
And I would not be better off than them if I gave here the dimensions of their plans.
If everyone starts making copies of their own kit plans, then the companies that make it will not die soon enough! Artesania Latina is already dying this year. I do not want to participate in the destruction of companies that respect the creators.

I hope you will understand my opinion, but I have to refuse this information.

PS: this kit is really cheap (given the quality) if you really want to build it.
 

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I understand and respect why you feel this way. I want you to know that I am not a business owner trying to steal ideas. I am just a regular guy who thinks that this model is really cool and would like to give building it a try.
The kit may be cheap to buy in Europe, but in America I've only been able to find it for $400-$500 USD, because it is considered rare.
My goal is to try to "scratch" build the model. I did not want to use the kit anyway. The plans would have definitely been helpful, but not completely necessary.
I can probably figure out the measurements, based on information that I found online, but would you feel comfortable at least giving me those (length, width, and the frames heights and widths)? It would just make it simpler for me to get started if I had that information and I don't think that this information would violate any proprietary company property.
 
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