L'Orenoque Mamoli 1:100 scale

The Gavel · Monday at 9:19 AM

What ho, shipmates!

Just a few happy shots of the pumps and a "flyby" of the deck furniture arrangements I'm planning on. Please, I'm interested in your thoughts about the arrangements. The pumps, for example, are located based, loosely, on the L'Aigle plans which have them bracketing the engineering spaces. Also, since I wanted the skylight to sit more directly above the stern windows (as seen broadside on), I put the binnacle and wheel forward towards the mizzen.

I really am thankful for your help on this project!

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

Peter Voogt · Monday at 10:55 AM

The Gavel said:
What ho, shipmates!

Just a few happy shots of the pumps and a "flyby" of the deck furniture arrangements I'm planning on. Please, I'm interested in your thoughts about the arrangements. The pumps, for example, are located based, loosely, on the L'Aigle plans which have them bracketing the engineering spaces. Also, since I wanted the skylight to sit more directly above the stern windows (as seen broadside on), I put the binnacle and wheel forward towards the mizzen.

I really am thankful for your help on this project!

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

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From my part, I’ll give your deck layout a GO! The black attributes giver a very nice accent with the deck and hull, Chuck.
Regards, Peter

The Gavel · Monday at 11:36 AM

Peter Voogt said:
From my part, I’ll give your deck layout a GO! The black attributes giver a very nice accent with the deck and hull, Chuck.

Peter!

Thank you! I quite like the dark accents - nothing gaudy

The dark green doesn't show very well in the pics, but in person it is just enough spice.

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

Martin By Eye · Tuesday at 3:11 PM

Looks great ! Captures the 19th c style very well .

The Gavel · Tuesday at 3:57 PM

Martin By Eye said:
Looks great ! Captures the 19th c style very well .

Martin! Thank you! I was very happy to be able to manage the pumps. I am still having trouble with consistency in my soldering AND I have ruined a bunch of Proxxon drill bits getting through the brass

for the davits.

I'll post pics and go into greater detail later, but I'll tell you now that I determined to go with the Royal Navy method of outrigging the bateaux tambours

. I got to the 7th experiment on the bateaux davits and decided that I was engaging in repeating the same behavior (I only thought I was doing something different every time) and expecting different results. I'm only mad at myself for doing it 7 times before I realized that I was acting crazy. So, my L'Orenoque has incorporated alien (British) technology ROTF

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Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

Martin By Eye · 2026-04-08T02:07:53-0500

The Gavel said:
Martin! Thank you! I was very happy to be able to manage the pumps. I am still having trouble with consistency in my soldering AND I have ruined a bunch of Proxxon drill bits getting through the brass for the davits.

I'll post pics and go into greater detail later, but I'll tell you now that I determined to go with the Royal Navy method of outrigging the bateaux tambours. I got to the 7th experiment on the bateaux davits and decided that I was engaging in repeating the same behavior (I only thought I was doing something different every time) and expecting different results. I'm only mad at myself for doing it 7 times before I realized that I was acting crazy. So, my L'Orenoque has incorporated alien (British) technology.

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

well , i am always up for learning something new so i look forward to your exposition ! By the way i have to say that i prefer canot tambour as written on some of the diagrams, i find it rolls off the tongue somewhat easier

As for drill bits, that's what they are for , is it not ?

The Gavel · 2026-04-08T08:47:26-0500

What ho, shipmates!

The first pic is the last attempt to model the bateaux tambours davits exactly as shown on the Panama plan. I managed to drill through the davit and run the chain through. I also managed to solder rigging guy eyes to the davit. Ugly. It occurred to me that the davit guy eyes would not really be visible at 1:100 scale and that I was otherwise overworking the project. It also occurred to me to look at the boat davits on my Harriet Lane. No eyes for the boat davit guys.

It also occurred to me that a compromise was in order - if I ever wanted to be satisfied with the modeling of the bateaux tambour davits.

The compromise was to follow the British Royal Navy method as shown in Paddle Wheel Warships shown below.

So that is what I did. First, however, I spent time changing the profile of the 1/16 inch brass rod from round to square thinnng toward tip. This made the davit look less like a 1/16 inch round brass rod and more like a davit IMHO. It also gave me less to drill through when it came time to drill eye for the lifting tackle, the hole for the preventer chain shackle, and the hole for the lowering tackle rope. Some of you will be screaming that I deviated from an accurate historical representation of L'Orenoque's bateaux tambour davits. Sorry.

Here's what the finished product looks like:

Thank you for checking in! Sorry for the disappointment.

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

dockattner · 2026-04-08T08:58:08-0500

Well played, Chuck. That boat sure would look good in green ROTF

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The Gavel · 2026-04-08T09:09:38-0500

dockattner said:
Well played, Chuck. That boat sure would look good in green .

Paul! Thank you! OMGoodness! You're so right about the boat needing to be green! I'll just start the whole thing over from scratch! ROTF

Blessings.
Chuck

The Gavel · 2026-04-08T09:11:13-0500

Martin By Eye said:
well , i am always up for learning something new so i look forward to your exposition ! By the way i have to say that i prefer canot tambour as written on some of the diagrams, i find it rolls off the tongue somewhat easier As for drill bits, that's what they are for , is it not ?

Martin! Now you can see what I decided on. As to the drill bits - too right, mate! But it still sucks ROTF

Blessings.
Chuck

dockattner · 2026-04-08T09:16:10-0500

The Gavel said:
I'll just start the whole thing over from scratch!

Yup. That's why I waited until now to bring it up...

The Gavel · 2026-04-08T09:31:57-0500

dockattner said:
Yup. That's why I waited until now to bring it up...

Paul! Other than you and maybe Ethan, who else thinks you're as funny as you think you are? ROTF

Blessings.
Chuck

Peter Voogt · 2026-04-08T14:53:26-0500

The Gavel said:
What ho, shipmates!

The first pic is the last attempt to model the bateaux tambours davits exactly as shown on the Panama plan. I managed to drill through the davit and run the chain through. I also managed to solder rigging guy eyes to the davit. Ugly. It occurred to me that the davit guy eyes would not really be visible at 1:100 scale and that I was otherwise overworking the project. It also occurred to me to look at the boat davits on my Harriet Lane. No eyes for the boat davit guys.

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It also occurred to me that a compromise was in order - if I ever wanted to be satisfied with the modeling of the bateaux tambour davits.

The compromise was to follow the British Royal Navy method as shown in Paddle Wheel Warships shown below.

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So that is what I did. First, however, I spent time changing the profile of the 1/16 inch brass rod from round to square thinnng toward tip. This made the davit look less like a 1/16 inch round brass rod and more like a davit IMHO. It also gave me less to drill through when it came time to drill eye for the lifting tackle, the hole for the preventer chain shackle, and the hole for the lowering tackle rope. Some of you will be screaming that I deviated from an accurate historical representation of L'Orenoque's bateaux tambour davits. Sorry.

Here's what the finished product looks like:

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Thank you for checking in! Sorry for the disappointment.

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

A nice interpretation, Chuck. It’s shows realistic.
Regards, Peter

Namabiiru · 2026-04-09T04:46:23-0500

Chuck,
Inasmuch as your second attempt looks great, I do also have to say I rather fancy your first attempt. You called it ugly…

Martin By Eye · 2026-04-09T16:32:21-0500

The Gavel said:
What ho, shipmates!

The first pic is the last attempt to model the bateaux tambours davits exactly as shown on the Panama plan. I managed to drill through the davit and run the chain through. I also managed to solder rigging guy eyes to the davit. Ugly. It occurred to me that the davit guy eyes would not really be visible at 1:100 scale and that I was otherwise overworking the project. It also occurred to me to look at the boat davits on my Harriet Lane. No eyes for the boat davit guys.

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It also occurred to me that a compromise was in order - if I ever wanted to be satisfied with the modeling of the bateaux tambour davits.

The compromise was to follow the British Royal Navy method as shown in Paddle Wheel Warships shown below.

View attachment 590702

So that is what I did. First, however, I spent time changing the profile of the 1/16 inch brass rod from round to square thinnng toward tip. This made the davit look less like a 1/16 inch round brass rod and more like a davit IMHO. It also gave me less to drill through when it came time to drill eye for the lifting tackle, the hole for the preventer chain shackle, and the hole for the lowering tackle rope. Some of you will be screaming that I deviated from an accurate historical representation of L'Orenoque's bateaux tambour davits. Sorry.

Here's what the finished product looks like:

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Thank you for checking in! Sorry for the disappointment.

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

looks fine to me, i think it's good to go back and look at where you started out from sometimes as it is easy to get lost in the small details..