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She is really starting to look quite beautiful. At least to us ship nerds !
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L'Orenoque Mamoli 1:100 scale
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Martin! Thank you! And Long live the Ship Nerds!!!!!
Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck
My question is where do you get this stuff, and is it formulated for something other than wood?
Seriously, though, Chuck, she’s really a beauty. Going to be magnificent when she’s done!
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Namabiiru!My question is where do you get this stuff, and is it formulated for something other than wood?
Seriously, though, Chuck, she’s really a beauty. Going to be magnificent when she’s done!
You mean the Titbond?
Nice one! I try to review my posts to correct the spelling errors. But sometimes they get by me - perhaps the drift of my thinking at the moment.Thank you for the compliment! I think it's going to come out ok
Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck
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What ho, shipmates!
Do you remember last October when I wrote about rigging the port side tambour bateaux in a lowering position and all of the work you helped me do making the boat out of grocery bag paper? Even at the time I had grave doubts about my ability to make it work. As I struggled with the davit problem and the soldering, I thought seriously about scrapping the effort and moving on. If I had never talked about it, I might have done just that, such was the level of my frustration with the soldering. Just goes to show - sometimes if you talk about doing a challenging thing to people whose opinions matter to you, you just have to do it. Thanks, shipmates!
Below, pics of the port side bt rigged for lowering (and a couple of broadside shots of the starboard side which will be unseen one she's done and under glass).
The lifting spars and the preventer chain. I have been concerned for a while how the chain might sag. See next pic.
Here with some weights on the outboard ends:
The question is, will the bateaux be heavy enough to make the chain straight? I did put a bunch of tiny fishing line weights in the batueax for this very reason. And: Ta da! Victory!
Still, the lowering lines don't give a sense of gravity in action at all
No pics of it, but once I run the lines through the "sheeves" in the davits, there is decent tension to show gravity working on a heavy object.
Just not quite enough tension, however, for my satisfaction. So, how do I make things rigid enough to get rid of the last bit of slack? Given my use of the British Royal Navy method, I can try gluing the lifting boards in this position (green arrow). And/or I can add the pushing spar from the French method (yellow line), but it will add clutter IMHO. I can also wait to see how much slack remains once all lines are belayed and IF there's just a bit, I can put a few more fishing line weights in the bateaux and paint the sagging lines with acrylic matte medium and wait until that cures before removing the weights.
In any event, I'll be unrigging the bateaux so I can permanently attach the port sponson to the hull with Titbond And, no, I won't just have the oars jumbled acoss the thwarts like that when I'm done.
How about a few more pics? You got it!
And finally the never-to-be-seeen-again-starboad-broadside.
Do you remember last October when I wrote about rigging the port side tambour bateaux in a lowering position and all of the work you helped me do making the boat out of grocery bag paper? Even at the time I had grave doubts about my ability to make it work. As I struggled with the davit problem and the soldering, I thought seriously about scrapping the effort and moving on. If I had never talked about it, I might have done just that, such was the level of my frustration with the soldering. Just goes to show - sometimes if you talk about doing a challenging thing to people whose opinions matter to you, you just have to do it. Thanks, shipmates!
Below, pics of the port side bt rigged for lowering (and a couple of broadside shots of the starboard side which will be unseen one she's done and under glass).
The lifting spars and the preventer chain. I have been concerned for a while how the chain might sag. See next pic.
Here with some weights on the outboard ends:
The question is, will the bateaux be heavy enough to make the chain straight? I did put a bunch of tiny fishing line weights in the batueax for this very reason. And: Ta da! Victory!
Still, the lowering lines don't give a sense of gravity in action at all
No pics of it, but once I run the lines through the "sheeves" in the davits, there is decent tension to show gravity working on a heavy object.Just not quite enough tension, however, for my satisfaction. So, how do I make things rigid enough to get rid of the last bit of slack? Given my use of the British Royal Navy method, I can try gluing the lifting boards in this position (green arrow). And/or I can add the pushing spar from the French method (yellow line), but it will add clutter IMHO. I can also wait to see how much slack remains once all lines are belayed and IF there's just a bit, I can put a few more fishing line weights in the bateaux and paint the sagging lines with acrylic matte medium and wait until that cures before removing the weights.
In any event, I'll be unrigging the bateaux so I can permanently attach the port sponson to the hull with Titbond
And, no, I won't just have the oars jumbled acoss the thwarts like that when I'm done.How about a few more pics? You got it!
And finally the never-to-be-seeen-again-starboad-broadside.
A great idea and a great outcome, Chuck. The little boat is hanging nicely on the davits.What ho, shipmates!
Do you remember last October when I wrote about rigging the port side tambour bateaux in a lowering position and all of the work you helped me do making the boat out of grocery bag paper? Even at the time I had grave doubts about my ability to make it work. As I struggled with the davit problem and the soldering, I thought seriously about scrapping the effort and moving on. If I had never talked about it, I might have done just that, such was the level of my frustration with the soldering. Just goes to show - sometimes if you talk about doing a challenging thing to people whose opinions matter to you, you just have to do it. Thanks, shipmates!
Below, pics of the port side bt rigged for lowering (and a couple of broadside shots of the starboard side which will be unseen one she's done and under glass).
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The lifting spars and the preventer chain. I have been concerned for a while how the chain might sag. See next pic.
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Here with some weights on the outboard ends:
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The question is, will the bateaux be heavy enough to make the chain straight? I did put a bunch of tiny fishing line weights in the batueax for this very reason. And: Ta da! Victory!
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Still, the lowering lines don't give a sense of gravity in action at all
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Just not quite enough tension, however, for my satisfaction. So, how do I make things rigid enough to get rid of the last bit of slack? Given my use of the British Royal Navy method, I can try gluing the lifting boards in this position (green arrow). And/or I can add the pushing spar from the French method (yellow line), but it will add clutter IMHO. I can also wait to see how much slack remains once all lines are belayed and IF there's just a bit, I can put a few more fishing line weights in the bateaux and paint the sagging lines with acrylic matte medium and wait until that cures before removing the weights.
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In any event, I'll be unrigging the bateaux so I can permanently attach the port sponson to the hull with Titbond
How about a few more pics? You got it!
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And finally the never-to-be-seeen-again-starboad-broadside.
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Regards, Peter
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Peter!
Thank you for looking in on my progress! I was/am pleased. It's just the matter of the slack lines now. I am also thinking about running a couple of clear acrylic/plastic dowels from the side of the ship to the side of the bateaux to give the rigidity and it will make hanging the bateaux much easier - took me 45 minutes to get it right for these pictures.
Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck
I think you’re on to something there, Chuck. The gap between the hull and BT is so small you could probably even get away with black dowels Either way, once she’s under glass someone would have to be looking from some pretty extreme angles to see the extra dowelsPeter!
Thank you for looking in on my progress! I was/am pleased. It's just the matter of the slack lines now. I am also thinking about running a couple of clear acrylic/plastic dowels from the side of the ship to the side of the bateaux to give the rigidity and it will make hanging the bateaux much easier - took me 45 minutes to get it right for these pictures.
Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck
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Namabiiru! I think it is worth the experiment! I could use black dowels that pierce the side of the bateaux hidden (mainly) by the thwarts. That way I can slide the bateaux onto the dowels and not have to worry about a glue bond holding against the sustained pull of the lowering lines + the lifting spar lines. Titbond (I had to do it
- last time. Promise) works great, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. I'll get the necessary rigidity without adding clutter or needing to bury the lower ends of the lifting spars in glue.Blessings.
Chuck