Making Cannon

[Artilleryman]

A little job ( in terms of size )
Panzerdraisine : Liliput L136506 or 507 .... Vierling flak : Preiser 16582 (without carriage and without shields )

 

[AllanKP69]

I am not sure if the carriages used in 1695 would be the same as those used circa 1665, but lacking evidence based on contemporary sources to the contrary I am planning to use 1665 design for Litchfield (50) 1695. It is based on the carriage recovered from the HMS London but will be sized for smaller guns than the 24 pounder carriage below.

The drawing by Richard Endsor is based on the carriage from the London.

Carriage for 24 pounder

Another concern is the hardware. The ring that would be for the breeching is very low and seems like the breech rope would get tangled with the forward trucks during recoil. With the real carriage available for study I do not doubt the drawing, but it seems odd to me. Also, there are two rings at the rear of the carriage instead of a single eyebolt. Even when there was one train tackle, I can only find a single eyebolt, no rings. If anyone has additional drawings or information for guns and carriage of the second half of the 17th century I would love to learn more.

TIA
Allan

 

[Signet]

View attachment 548957 Another concern is the hardware. The ring that would be for the breeching is very low and seems like the breech rope would get tangled with the forward trucks during recoil.

I agree. Plus I would think that with the recoil being retained so low, there would be quite the tendency for the barrel to lift up, along with the the front wheels. If it lifted quickly during the recoil cycle, the barrel might even hit the top of the gunport before retracting far enough. Hard to know, but yes, it's usual.

 

[AllanKP69]

Thanks Signet.
Allan

 

[AllanKP69]

Spanish naval guns., I had a Spanish barrel printed based on contemporary drawings, but I cannot find anything on the carriages, circa 1765. The past hour of searching has turned up two photos from the Museo do Marine in Madrid, but I am not sure if either one is correct. If anyone has good drawings of carriages from the mid 18th century I would be grateful if you could post them.
TIA
Allan
Printed barrel in 1:30 and 1"64

Photos from museum in Madrid

 

[Jeffrey Modell]

Is anyone (possibly else besides Alan) making Spanish Gribaveaul cannon (12-, 8-, 4-pounders) barrels in1:64? I need them for the square-rigged jabeque Murciano (1779).

 

[Jeffrey Modell]

Spanish naval guns., I had a Spanish barrel printed based on contemporary drawings, but I cannot find anything on the carriages, circa 1765. The past hour of searching has turned up two photos from the Museo do Marine in Madrid, but I am not sure if either one is correct. If anyone has good drawings of carriages from the mid 18th century I would be grateful if you could post them.
TIA
Allan
Printed barrel in 1:30 and 1"64
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Photos from museum in Madrid
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I cannot read any dates on this but I was searching for 18th century back when I found it all. I am away from my library for a few weeks but I do have a book on Spanish ordinance that I can check.

 

[Jeffrey Modell]

Spanish naval guns., I had a Spanish barrel printed based on contemporary drawings, but I cannot find anything on the carriages, circa 1765. The past hour of searching has turned up two photos from the Museo do Marine in Madrid, but I am not sure if either one is correct. If anyone has good drawings of carriages from the mid 18th century I would be grateful if you could post them.
TIA
Allan
Printed barrel in 1:30 and 1"64
View attachment 549100
Photos from museum in Madrid
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Could not figure out how to delete my post. Carriages in later post today.

 

[Jeffrey Modell]

Excellent point Uwe.
I did a little digging after Anatoly's post and wondered if the British kept her armament as launched, re-armed her with Armstrong Fredericks or the newer Blomefield. So far I have found that there is scant information on US frigate armaments compared to what can be found on other navies. RMG has drawings of three different ships named President, one being a French capture. The only thing I could find there on the US frigate is a half hull model. https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-66564 and a cross section drawing https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-81696
Sorry to say the Sergal kit appears to be someone's fantasy as it looks nothing like the French ship captured in 1806, the US ship President 1800 (captured in1815). or the British President 1829
Allan

Can't speak for the rest, but I pondered this issue as well with respect to the razee Indefatigable and found no info. My gut feel is the British were so stretched that if a gun could be kept to save money, it would be kept.