Making your own Ropes

[Phillipsart]

I’m still waiting on the Rope Walker to arrive. It’s probably going to be two weeks before it arrives.

Lots of testing will follow as soon it arrives. In the mean time I been looking to see what’s available locally here in regards to the thread and trying to work out what thread I need to make apx 1.5mm rope on the PL4-4 I’ve ordered.

 

[Phillipsart]

no os compliques tanto la cabeza, haceros la máquina, y hacer unos cuantos metros de cabo, que irá a la basura, hasta que entendáis como funciona, y pilleis la práctica, yo ahora hago cabos de 6 m de longitud en mi salón, cuando monto la máquina, uso todo el día y hago muchos m de diferentes calibres. Práctica error, y al final premio, hay gente que tiene tabla hasta de los pesos a poner, yo a ojo y salen perfectos. De verdad, no es tan difícil. Un saludo al mundo

I think that’s great advice. Yes. I’m complicating it. I guess I’m trying to find the thread needed for what I want to make.

Once the rope walker arrives I will try threads that’s available here, till I achieve my end goal. Which is 1.5mm rope for the main rigging for this ship I built.

 

[Phillipsart]

nope, the first number is for the strands and the second number is for the count of yarns in one strand.
3 strand rope is the most common rope you make. 4 strands is difficult. because it could collapse without core.
2 strands? I make that only when I need very thin rope. It doesn't look good on thicker rope, like 0,4 mm diameter.
so 3x1, 3x2, 3x3, 3x4, 3x5.........3x20 are all 3 strands and the second number is how many yarns there are in one strand.

Now I am more confused. I thought I worked it out. lol.

 

[Crisjaca]

Ahora estoy más confundido. Creí que lo había resuelto. Jajaja.

Hola Phillipsart...el segundo nº despues de la "x" es los hilos de Gütterman Mara a120 que pones en cada gancho de la maquina...lo dicho, una imagen, creo que ahora estará más claro...los hilos van desde el carro fijo que es el que da el giro a los "cordones" al carro movil, el de la izquierda, las lineas rojas serian los hilos por cordon. Las fotos estan renombradas, 3x1, 3x2, 3x3...

 

[Phillipsart]

Hola Phillipsart...el segundo nº despues de la "x" es los hilos de Gütterman Mara a120 que pones en cada gancho de la maquina...lo dicho, una imagen, creo que ahora estará más claro...los hilos van desde el carro fijo que es el que da el giro a los "cordones" al carro movil, el de la izquierda, las lineas rojas serian los hilos por cordon. Las fotos estan renombradas, 3x1, 3x2, 3x3...


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I don’t think i can do that with the PL4-4 rope walker from ship work shop.

Thanks for the explanation and the images. This explains a lot. I think I get it now.

The PL4-4 I ordered feeds of bobbins that are used in some sewing machines and appears does not have the ability to do what you shown with the separate threads in each hock.

I would probably have to make each strand separately and wind those onto a bobbin and go from there. Which is no issue really.

But it appears for that reason these rope walkers like yours appear to be the one to use.

I don’t really have the room for a setup like that. So the pl4 for me was a better purchase as it don’t take up any room.

Which means with the PL4. I will only be able to do 2x1 3x1 4x1 or 4x1 with a core. This was something I was not aware off when I ordered the PL4.
Knowing this now. Would I have purchased the PL4? Probably not.

Although I do like how I will be able to make longer runs of rope and how little room it takes up.

 

[Bob Cleek]

By the way, since nobody's mentioned it so far, anybody who's going to be using a planetary gear rope making machine tht uses standard sewing machine bobbins will want to get a "bobbin winder." These not only make winding bobbins fast, but they also ensure even tension on the thread as it is loaded on the bobbin, another "essential" for good results. They're not expensive. See: https://www.amazon.com/Simplicity-S...&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584345020110551&th=1

 

[Crisjaca]

No creo que pueda hacer eso con el andador de cuerda PL4-4 del taller naval.

Gracias por la explicación y las imágenes. Esto explica muchas cosas. Creo que ya lo entiendo.

El PL4-4 que pedí alimenta las bobinas que se usan en algunas máquinas de coser y parece que no tiene la capacidad de hacer lo que usted muestra con los hilos separados en cada corvejón.

Probablemente tendría que tejer cada hebra por separado, enrollarlas en una bobina y empezar a partir de ahí. Lo cual no supone ningún problema.

Pero parece que por esa razón estos caminantes de cuerda como el suyo parecen ser los que hay que utilizar.

Realmente no tengo espacio para una configuración así. Así que el PL4 me pareció una mejor opción, ya que no ocupa espacio.

Lo que significa que con el PL4 solo podré hacer 2x1, 3x1, 4x1 o 4x1 con un núcleo. Esto era algo que desconocía cuando pedí el PL4.
Sabiéndolo ahora, ¿habría comprado el PL4? Probablemente no.

Aunque me gusta poder hacer tiradas más largas de cuerda y el poco espacio que ocupa.


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Quizás, puedas poner en doble cada bobina, y asi poder hacer por lo menos de 3x2 o 4x2, es cuestión de probar. Por cierto, buena maquina, esa no necesita espacio, yo uso mi comedor cada vez que hago cabos, hehehehehe...

 

[paul ron]

that pl4 looks awsome. i watched the videos (no sound was dissapointing) the planetary system simplifies the process but you are limited to whatever amount of thread on the bobbins... thats not a real game changer though. i doubt youll need 1000' of rope.

i saw another planetary system that allows you to use the original spools of thread, so no need for making bobbins.

then there is crisjaca's machine, very simple and straight forward, an easy diy project. ill be making a similar machine, as i have done in the past with my cub scouts after visiting mystic seaport (30 years ago).

i have an old norelco tripple head shaver im going to make into my motorized ropewalk. i have to make a seperator trolly and an end hook winder, thats this week's project. meantime, shopping for threads tomorrow. i really wont need the ropes till next year but this gives me a head start to get ready for re rigging my old ships.... ive got a clipper half rigged on the bench at the moment. too late to use custom ropes at this point.

thanks everyone. i bookmarked this conversation for future reference... lots of good info from the experts. luv this site!

 

[kuba91nt]

that pl4 looks awsome. i watched the videos (no sound was dissapointing) the planetary system simplifies the process but you are limited to whatever amount of thread on the bobbins... thats not a real game changer though. i doubt youll need 1000' of rope.

i saw another planetary system that allows you to use the original spools of thread, so no need for making bobbins.

then there is crisjaca's machine, very simple and straight forward, an easy diy project. ill be making a similar machine, as i have done in the past with my cub scouts after visiting mystic seaport (30 years ago).

i have an old norelco tripple head shaver im going to make into my motorized ropewalk. i have to make a seperator trolly and an end hook winder, thats this week's project. meantime, shopping for threads tomorrow. i really wont need the ropes till next year but this gives me a head start to get ready for re rigging my old ships.... ive got a clipper half rigged on the bench at the moment. too late to use custom ropes at this point.

thanks everyone. i bookmarked this conversation for future reference... lots of good info from the experts. luv this site!

PL4 + bobbin winder = endless rope
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