Misticque, 1/36 - Build Log by Moreplovac

[iutar]

Dear Moreplovac! You will soon be making the masts and yards. Have you decided which option to choose for your model—sails raised or furled? I noticed in the instruction diagram that the Chinese manufacturers show a yard for the "raised sails" configuration, even though there are no actual sails on the yards. This is incorrect.
If you decide to hoist the sails, the option shown in the instructions is suitable for you. However, if you decide to display the sails furled, you need to lower all the topsail and topgallant yards.
Depicting the yards in a lowered position is not particularly difficult. However, there is a nuance. Since this ship featured special single-pole masts—lacking topmasts—the yards were lowered differently than on conventional ships. You can use images of these specific ships from the albums of Lescallier, Jouvet, or Gouroul.

 

[dockattner]

bend them like a marshmallow on fire

 

[Namabiiru]

That is indeed a metaphor for the books, destined to outlive, “like Beckham”or “like a willow in the wind.” Do marshmallows bend better after the stick has been removed?

Anyway, laminating thin strips to get that nice curve built up is definitely the way to go.

 

[moreplovac]

Dear Moreplovac! You will soon be making the masts and yards. Have you decided which option to choose for your model—sails raised or furled? I noticed in the instruction diagram that the Chinese manufacturers show a yard for the "raised sails" configuration, even though there are no actual sails on the yards. This is incorrect.
If you decide to hoist the sails, the option shown in the instructions is suitable for you. However, if you decide to display the sails furled, you need to lower all the topsail and topgallant yards.
Depicting the yards in a lowered position is not particularly difficult. However, there is a nuance. Since this ship featured special single-pole masts—lacking topmasts—the yards were lowered differently than on conventional ships. You can use images of these specific ships from the albums of Lescallier, Jouvet, or Gouroul.

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Hi Igor,

Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts and suggestions. I really appreciate your input and willingness to help. This is exactly what makes a forum like this so special — being able to learn from people who are willing to share their knowledge, experience, and passion with others.

I was planning to have furled sails on this model, so I will definitely take your suggestions into account. To be honest, I hadn’t paid enough attention to some of these details, and I would probably have made a few mistakes if you hadn’t pointed me in the right direction.

If you happen to have a link to those beautiful black-and-white reference photos, or perhaps know of another forum where this subject is discussed in more detail, I would be very grateful if you could share it. Having good references makes such a difference, especially when you’re trying to get the details right.

Thanks again, Igor. Your help is truly appreciated!

 

[moreplovac]

That is indeed a metaphor for the books, destined to outlive, “like Beckham”or “like a willow in the wind.” Do marshmallows bend better after the stick has been removed?

Anyway, laminating thin strips to get that nice curve built up is definitely the way to go.

Marshmallow bending situation - do they bend better with or without the stick? This can be a sort of dialectical question and might require more time to investigate and discuss.. but more to the earth approach is how strong my hands are and how long I can withstand the fire

Yeah, I really like the way how laminated strips ended up being...

Cheers

 

[iutar]

Dear Moreplovac! In case you're interested, here is some information. The Chinese manufacturer did not design this model itself; it is based on the "Mystic" model from the well-known manufacturer Corel. Moreover, the Chinese took such a lazy approach to the development process that they didn't even alter the blueprints; they simply copied them in their entirety, without changing even Corel’s signature, easily recognizable design style.


Corel itself stated that, for its "Mystic" model, it chose a polacre from the Paris Maritime Museum's collection as the prototype.
However, archival drawings of the polacre *Mystic* do exist, yet the model from the Paris museum's collection depicts a much later polacre, featuring a square-rigged foremast. Here is the "Mystic" model from the Paris museum's collection:


And here are the archival drawings of the polacre *Mystic*:



There has been some slight confusion here. The model of the polacre *Le Sage* from the Paris Museum's collection bears the greatest resemblance to the plans.


Corel undoubtedly used a genuine antique model from the collection of the Musée de la Marine in Paris—the model of the polacre *Le Sage*—as the basis for developing its own model. This model is displayed alongside the model of the xebec *Le Requin*, and the two bear a striking resemblance.
These two ships are so similar that you can take the Ancre publication on the xebec *Le Requin* and use it as a reference guide.
Accordingly, by finding photos of the museum model of the polacre *Le Sage* on the Internet (they are freely available), you can significantly simplify the process of building the model.

 

[moreplovac]

Hi Igor,
Thank you very much for your valuable input. I really appreciate it!

I had actually started using Ancre's plans to help clarify some of the details, without being fully aware of the historical background.

Looking at the plan for Corel's Mystique, I can now clearly see obvious similarities between that one and the ones supplied with the kit. It seems only the bottom right corner is different!

I also appreciate you pointing me toward the pictures of La Sage. Now that I know what to look for, I'll do some further research. These will definitely become my new reference point as I continue with the build.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and insights. Much appreciated!

Cheers!

 

[iutar]

Thank you for the kind words! I wish you great enjoyment and a smooth, creative process while working on the model—may your hobby bring you nothing but joy and good spirits!