New kit from Occre 09/21/2025

[rtwpsom2]

I just don't understand how you can justify Occre and Artesania Latina kits anymore. This one just seems so..... I don't know... outdated? unrefined? low quality? low effort? phoned in? You know, I don't want to denigrate MSW in any way, but if they aren't growing and changing with the times they are supporting low effort tripe like this kit. More power to them if they really like challenges, they will definitely grow as modelers if they want to make a good model from this kit. But I tell you what, I am building my Chinese full rib kit and I am just grinning from ear to ear the whole time and I really think they are missing some of the best parts of this hobby. I feel so sorry for them.

Hi folks,
it is the Le Soleil Royal...... It costs 1.800 euros.

FU**

NO.

 

[GIG1810]

Hi folks,

I can well understand your criticism and to be honest, unfortunately I don't understand OcCre. As you know, I bought the Black Swan as a kit, even though it cost me a lot of money. I was very disappointed when I held the parcel in my hand and looked inside the box. Everything was so rough and unkind and not true to scale. It really wasn't my ambition, even though the Black Swan is my first wooden ship. That's why I decided to convert the Black Swan. Nevertheless, these kits naturally also have an appeal for those who find them just as beautiful as they are depicted. And that's a good thing. After all, as the saying goes: "To each his own" ...

You can always argue about taste. Not about quality! The price is absolutely exorbitant!!!

 

[AiDi]

I just don't understand how you can justify Occre and Artesania Latina kits anymore

Well AL kits are way better than this. Santissima Trinidad was very good, Victory was also ok, something different with all the internal fittings. I am still trying to work on OcCres Soleil from DeAgostini, but I'm rebuilding it completly and I came to the point where I wanted to burn it three times already...

At least they didn't put sail on crossjack yard this time

 

[ubjs]

My idea of starting to build wooden model ships was that I would learn how they looked and were built. I have been tinkering with model railways for 50 years and there models are criticized harshly if any detail is wrong etc.
When I bought a number of model boat kits, I started reading this forum and found to my great surprise that most of what I bought had large scale errors when it comes to details
I think that a very big reason for the large number of errors in boat kits is the ignorance of those who buy them.

Maybe I should start by buying a plastic kit, is the scale accuracy better there when it comes to ships?
In that case, perhaps the first tip for new shipbuilders should be to start with a plastic kit to get an understanding of how details should look?