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I joined SOS this month after dicovering what a great site you have.
my problem is lack of knowledge. I want to eventually make plans of ships using fusion360 which i already use for woodwork plans and 3D printing. I am trying to learn as much as possible about wooden ship constuction. I am looking for information on reading 1800 century draughts as seen in most pulications, but im finding this vary scarce. The book "Building the Wooden Fighting Ship" by J Dodds & J Moore has a picture of a labelled draught from Steel's Naval architecture 1805 that identifies just about every line. however , the print is so small i cannot read it. Does anyone know of a source of what seems like a secret knowledge.

regards Phill
 
Hallo Phill and a warm welcome here on board of our forum.
I hope, that some of our members can also help you in your research.

Very helpful to understand could be this book:

Deane's doctrine of naval architecture, 1670​

edited and introduced by Brian Lavery
 
Hi Phill

You can find what you need in ANCRE's books.

I advise this book series. It has 4 volumes with detailed drawings for a 74 gun ship.

You can find additional information here :

ancre.fr

THE 74 GUN SHIP Pratical Treatise of Naval Art 1780 - Ancre

THE 74 GUN SHIP Pratical Treatise of Naval Art 1780 In four volumes. The cornerstone of our collection. available: The 42 plans with the frame of the ship of 74 guns at 1/72 and 1/48. See Book:TIMBERING PLANS THE 74-GUN SHIP New 2019: Sail plans for 74-gun Ship at scale 1/72 or 1/48.
ancre.fr ancre.fr

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Thanks for the replys with the sugested info I shall look into them both. The one thing I have found out in the short time I have been researching this subject. Because this is such a specialized subject, A mortgage is required for the research material. I am in the process of building a book collection see below

Building the Wooden Fighting Ship.
The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships.
The first Frigates.
The Sailing Navy List.
The 50 Gun Ship.

apart from the ones you have already suggested. Could you recommend something that can relate each line on a ships draught with the actual wooden component
many thanks for your help.
regards Phill
 
tannerman said:
Thanks for the replys with the sugested info I shall look into them both. The one thing I have found out in the short time I have been researching this subject. Because this is such a specialized subject, A mortgage is required for the research material. I am in the process of building a book collection see below

Building the Wooden Fighting Ship.
The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships.
The first Frigates.
The Sailing Navy List.
The 50 Gun Ship.

apart from the ones you have already suggested. Could you recommend something that can relate each line on a ships draught with the actual wooden component
many thanks for your help.
regards Phill
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You are fortunate to have chosen a a late period ship with lots of information still available to use for your model. Older vessels have very scant information, occasionally nothing, to provide guidance. Worse yet, many sources that do exist from the 16th and 17th centuries often contradict each other.
 
All of the books you list there are available second hand at abebooks.com. I buy tons of books there. They are all in the US$10-25 range except the Navy list, which is more than the others combined at $115. Edit: Oh and you are in the UK. For some reason, many of the books I buy, on all topics or even novels, come from the UK. Postage for international post is very small there. Way, way less than from the US and Canada.
tannerman said:
Thanks for the replys with the sugested info I shall look into them both. The one thing I have found out in the short time I have been researching this subject. Because this is such a specialized subject, A mortgage is required for the research material. I am in the process of building a book collection see below

Building the Wooden Fighting Ship.
The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships.
The first Frigates.
The Sailing Navy List.
The 50 Gun Ship.

apart from the ones you have already suggested. Could you recommend something that can relate each line on a ships draught with the actual wooden component
many thanks for your help.
regards Phill
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Funny you should say that Tangopapa. I have just purchased Deane's doctrine of naval architecture from Abebooks.com .
I was lucky just before christmas buying the Navy sailing list for £20 private. On my steep learning curve im looking for the info contained in the picture. Its one of steel's draughts. This is the only picture i can find of them.30241618797.jpg
 
tannerman said:
I joined SOS this month after dicovering what a great site you have.
my problem is lack of knowledge. I want to eventually make plans of ships using fusion360 which i already use for woodwork plans and 3D printing. I am trying to learn as much as possible about wooden ship constuction. I am looking for information on reading 1800 century draughts as seen in most pulications, but im finding this vary scarce. The book "Building the Wooden Fighting Ship" by J Dodds & J Moore has a picture of a labelled draught from Steel's Naval architecture 1805 that identifies just about every line. however , the print is so small i cannot read it. Does anyone know of a source of what seems like a secret knowledge.

regards Phill
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Hallo Phill alias @tannerman
we wish you all the BEST and a HAPPY BIRTHDAY
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you can go here and under public domain you will find books you can download


another great source of information is this article, i will see if i can find a copy and post it

David White's "Understanding Ships Drafts' from Model ShipWright Magazine
 
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@Dave Stevens (Lumberyard)
Maybe Dave might help some - I know he does a lot of CAD. Of course there might be others here that I am not aware of. I tried my hand at drawing 3D ship frames and what all and found that I just could not master it. Most likely, it was the software I was using which was TurboCAD platinum. I think most people are using AutoCAD, but there are others here that have more insight than I do. Funny that I actually have a degree in Drafting and Design, but Nautical design is a whole different ball game of which I can't do (maybe if I got the right program and with the right tutoring, but time is such a factor on me now).
 
Thanks for the info. I have read quite a lot of his posts and found them very informative. It has been a long time since i used TurboCAD. The box i can see on the shelf is v9 so would not expect it working on win10.
 
tannerman said:
I joined SOS this month after dicovering what a great site you have.
my problem is lack of knowledge. I want to eventually make plans of ships using fusion360 which i already use for woodwork plans and 3D printing. I am trying to learn as much as possible about wooden ship constuction. I am looking for information on reading 1800 century draughts as seen in most pulications, but im finding this vary scarce. The book "Building the Wooden Fighting Ship" by J Dodds & J Moore has a picture of a labelled draught from Steel's Naval architecture 1805 that identifies just about every line. however , the print is so small i cannot read it. Does anyone know of a source of what seems like a secret knowledge.

regards Phill
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Hallo Phill alias @tannerman
we wish you all the BEST and a Happy BIRTHDAY
Birthday-Cake
 
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