Postiljon, a Dutch frigate (1661-1678)

Ab Hoving

Ab Hoving

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In spite of my shaking hands and fading eyesight I just could not resist the building of this light frigate.
The Postiljon only measured 100 x 24,5 x 10,25 feet and was armed with 20 guns. Het crew existed of 75 men. She was part of the group that executed the Raid on Chatham, an occasion at which many British warships were burned and the flagship Royal Charles was captured and brought to the Netherlands. Postiljon only played a modest roll in the event, but she was on the Medway, so she wrote history.
I pictured het counter-braced to come to a halt. We will probably come with images showing her in her natural surroundings.

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For whoever is interested, here are the plans in 1/77 scale. The model measures 52 cm over all, bowsprit and lanterns included.

I hope you like it.
Ab
 

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Ab Hoving said:
In spite of my shaking hands and fading eyesight I just could not resist the building of this light frigate.
The Postiljon only measured 100 x 24,5 x 10,25 feet and was armed with 20 guns. Het crew existed of 75 men. She was part of the group that executed the Raid on Chatham, an occasion at which many British warships were burned and the flagship Royal Charles was captured and brought to the Netherlands. Postiljon only played a modest roll in the event, but she was on the Medway, so she wrote history.
I pictured het counter-braced to come to a halt. We will probably come with images showing her in her natural surroundings.

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For whoever is interested, here are the plans in 1/77 scale. The model measures 52 cm over all, bowsprit and lanterns included.

I hope you like it.
Ab
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I am glad to see that you could not resist of building another beautiful model, Ab. Looking forward what natural surrounding Emiel will show us.
Regards, Peter
 
Thank you very much John, Tomek, Thomas, Peter, Roger, Bill-R and Maarten for your kind works and all the people that liked my posting.
Modelbuilding is slowly nowadays as a result of my physical problems, but I cannot help to force myself to keep doing it, in spite of the obvious lack of accuracy and neatness in the result. I never cared much about neatness I must confess, but it is better to apply it with a theory behind it than as a result of a handicap. But things are what they are and I even used this summer to do another project for a friend who is building a 'speeljacht' after Witsen's book and is planning to start a full size fluit summer next year. Not unlike my unusual choice of basic material, paper, he is building using a product made of waste plastic. Maarten@ mentioned him earlier in one of his posts. See his site:

Onze schepen - Clean2Anywhere

www.clean2a.nl www.clean2a.nl

Here is the fluit I built for him at his request, not particularly to be used as a building plan, but more as an inspiration of how the ship might look, once he finished it.

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It's just paper anyway...

Best,
Ab
 
Hallo Ab,
it is amazing what you can do even with some handicaps - these are beautiful models - I would be extremely happy, if I could do something in a similar quality

BTW: Here is the link to @Maarten s topic Ab mentioned

Building 17th century ships from recycled plastic

Maybe you are suprized by reading this topic. Building 17th century ships from recycled plastic??? Who is so crazy of doing this, actually it is Edwin ter Velde and I met him last week at his shipyard in Hoorn. Edwin is an entrepreneur and a free spirit who has been travelling with his wife in...
shipsofscale.com
 
A beautiful model perfect in all ways! Yes the shaking does make it harder than necessary. Arm, hand rest help and holding one hand with the other does the trick sometimes. Mine is mostly in the right hand but that is my primary,
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I hoped a really long time that Artitec will offer a kit of this beautyful ship, but they didnˋt. So it is really mice to see your wonderful interpretation.
 
I just LOVE the job you've done here. And I think the way your white stuff is applied makes so much sense, considering how it was applied in real life. Wish I'd have thought about that before masking off for it on my Granada and spraying too-glossy white.
 
I´m just another admirer of Ab Hoving´s paper models with their final stance always so pleasant to the eye to behold. Most modelers always want to achive the "picture perfect" of how the ships "looked like" (impossible task!), but then there are other ways of representing them.
Years ago I was into the traditional sailing fishing boats of my town and family from the 1920s-40s. I built all of them in a mix of cardboard and wood and later on took them to a couple of public expos. When people passed my stand it was only compliments... until the ones that asked how I made them. When I revealed the whole shell was thick cardboard planks people would make a surprise face and several would leave "disappointed", because form them, a ship model... is of wood. What I was exhibiting... was a "fake".
That never bothered me, I never thought that way and that´s why Ab´s models tell me a lot in their meaning of what a model is all about. Correct proportions and scale always, but them it´s another art form, open to the creator to put its mark.
Concernig physical limitations, I will turn 50 next year and recently I started using first time ever simple glasses when it comes to some tiny tasks in the builds. I am getting used to it and still think that at some point the eyes will be able again to do all naturally. They won´t :). And so, a word of admiration for Ab´s persistence and never stopping our true passions.
 
Ab Hoving said:
Thank you very much John, Tomek, Thomas, Peter, Roger, Bill-R and Maarten for your kind works and all the people that liked my posting.
Modelbuilding is slowly nowadays as a result of my physical problems, but I cannot help to force myself to keep doing it, in spite of the obvious lack of accuracy and neatness in the result. I never cared much about neatness I must confess, but it is better to apply it with a theory behind it than as a result of a handicap. But things are what they are and I even used this summer to do another project for a friend who is building a 'speeljacht' after Witsen's book and is planning to start a full size fluit summer next year. Not unlike my unusual choice of basic material, paper, he is building using a product made of waste plastic. Maarten@ mentioned him earlier in one of his posts. See his site:

Onze schepen - Clean2Anywhere

www.clean2a.nl www.clean2a.nl

Here is the fluit I built for him at his request, not particularly to be used as a building plan, but more as an inspiration of how the ship might look, once he finished it.

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It's just paper anyway...

Best,
Ab
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She has a big bustle rear end, just like an English Victorian lady ! Luvvit.
 
Wow! What a sudden flood of likes and comments. You are all too kind. It's only paper. :)

@Uwek: Thank you for the addition of Maarten's post and for your kind words.
@The learner: I know of your own problems. Thanks for the advise.
@Anobium Punctatum: Once when I visited Artitec a few years ago I saw over 50 ready hulls with masts and spars and everything necessary for a bundle of kits.... Herbert threw them all in the dustbin, because he spotted some irregularities. It's not always a blessing to be a perfectionist....
@Signet: It is much easier to make a perfect model look a bit sloppy than the other way around. :)
@martijnonderwater: Not really an achievement, more another one in a long line of models. Once you get the hang of it it becomes more and more easy (as long as your eyes and hands behave like you want them to).
@Jorge Escudero: Thank you for your kind remarks.
#Antonio Fangueiro: Comments from Poland always have my special attention. You have so many brilliant models builder over there that I always feel like a hack. Indeed some people don't take paper models serious. Let them. As long as it satisfies us to make them.
@ChrisP: I don't know if the English witnesses of the Raid on Chatham would agree with you, but thanks for the compliment. Both Dutch and British ships from the period were beautiful in my eyes!
 
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