Postiljon, a Dutch frigate (1661-1678)

[Peter Voogt]

Building a hull hasn't given me too many problems yet. The Postiljon appeared to receive a lot of praise in my social environment, so I expected that I would not remain the owner of the model for long. So I decided to make another hull, this time from another frigate that took part in the Chatham Raid, the Brak. The building was straightforward and allowed me to correct some minor flaws in the original design. So there it sat on top of my printer, where I could enjoy its graceful lines while working on the computer:

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I had no idea what a Brak was, but it soon turned out to be a hunting dog, a beagle. Usually I use carving for the transom, but this time I decided to try a painting job. That's more difficult than you might think, because I'm somewhat color blind, but luckily the names of the colors are usually on jars and tubes. So here is my Beagle.

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The problem is that in my eyes a ship model really comes to life with a working rig and free flapping flags.
So the model stood there, looking at me in expectance of my finishing hands. I prepared as much as I could, making the masts, yards, sails, belaying pins and all the blocks and deadeyes in advance.... But the rigging has to start yet. I know this will be a hard time for me, with a lot of sweat and swearing, but with much joy as well. This is how the rigging, according to Willem van de Velde, should look after I'm done:View attachment 502120

Until then the model will be staring at me from the closet with a reproachful look.
One day I will have the courage to start rigging.
Fortunately there are lots of other projects that distract me from doing things I am hesitating about.

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Again a solid base for a representative model, Ab. The painting of the Brag with prey is very nice. And to show her later in that bad weather conditions is a challenge.
Regards, Peter

 

[martijnonderwater]

Building a hull hasn't given me too many problems yet. The Postiljon appeared to receive a lot of praise in my social environment, so I expected that I would not remain the owner of the model for long. So I decided to make another hull, this time from another frigate that took part in the Chatham Raid, the Brak. The building was straightforward and allowed me to correct some minor flaws in the original design. So there it sat on top of my printer, where I could enjoy its graceful lines while working on the computer:

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I had no idea what a Brak was, but it soon turned out to be a hunting dog, a beagle. Usually I use carving for the transom, but this time I decided to try a painting job. That's more difficult than you might think, because I'm somewhat color blind, but luckily the names of the colors are usually on jars and tubes. So here is my Beagle.

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The problem is that in my eyes a ship model really comes to life with a working rig and free flapping flags.
So the model stood there, looking at me in expectance of my finishing hands. I prepared as much as I could, making the masts, yards, sails, belaying pins and all the blocks and deadeyes in advance.... But the rigging has to start yet. I know this will be a hard time for me, with a lot of sweat and swearing, but with much joy as well. This is how the rigging, according to Willem van de Velde, should look after I'm done:View attachment 502120

Until then the model will be staring at me from the closet with a reproachful look.
One day I will have the courage to start rigging.
Fortunately there are lots of other projects that distract me from doing things I am hesitating about.

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Wow, absolutely great work Ab! I love the painting, and the choice of colors.

Greetings from a fellow Dutchman!

 

[Alan Smith]

I don't mind someone advertising his Youtube channel. What I feel as irritating is that he chooses to use a Personal Message as a way of promoting himself and his products. If I get a PM I suppose the sender wants to ask or tell me something. Not that he is after his own benefit. It may not be spam, but it is not a polite way to express someone's presence either.

I am an admin on another non-maritime forum, and have noticed that people -even non-members - have discovered that using PM's evades the eagle eyes of the Mods. Especially if nobody complains. So best to report such things ASAP>

 

[Ab Hoving]

@Peter Voogt and @martijnonderwater:
Thanx gents. Always nice to have some appreciation from your own country. Een profeet in eigen land....

 

[Iterum]

Hello Ab,

I looked on this picture and a may be stupid question grow in my mind:

There are three types of flags - there is the
a)
Orange-White-Blue flag flying over the transom and the fockmast,

b)
an Orange-White-Blue-Orange-White-Blue flag flying over the main mast and

c)
the triple Orange-White-Blue flag over the besan mast.

What do these different types of the Dutch colours stand for? When was what flag in use?

 

[Ab Hoving]

Red-white and blue is the so-called 'Statenvlag', the national flag (for as far as we can talk of a Dutch nation in those days).
The variants are caused by the position of each ship in the fleet: Double or even triple flags point out to what squadron the ship belongs and even the location (main, fore or mizzen mast) of the flags have a meaning. For every fleet action the positions and the sort of flags were determined anew. We don't know much about it for every single fleet action.

 

[Holger.Schwarz]

Vielen Dank an John, Tomek, Thomas, Peter, Roger, Bill-R und Maarten für eure freundliche Unterstützung und an alle, denen mein Beitrag gefallen hat.
Der Modellbau lässt aufgrund meiner körperlichen Probleme heutzutage etwas nach, aber ich kann mich nicht davon abhalten, weiterzumachen, trotz der offensichtlichen Ungenauigkeit und Unsauberkeit der Ergebnisse. Ehrlich gesagt, habe ich mich nie besonders um Sauberkeit gekümmert, aber es ist besser, sie mit einer Theorie dahinter anzuwenden, als aufgrund einer Behinderung. Nun, die Dinge sind, wie sie sind, und ich habe diesen Sommer sogar ein weiteres Projekt für einen Freund genutzt, der nach Witsens Buch eine „Speeljacht“ baut und plant, im nächsten Sommer mit dem Bau einer Flöte in Originalgröße zu beginnen. Ähnlich wie ich mit meiner ungewöhnlichen Wahl des Grundmaterials, Papier, baut er ein Produkt aus Plastikmüll. Maarten@ hat ihn bereits in einem seiner Beiträge erwähnt. Besuchen Sie seine Website:

Onze schepen - Clean2Anywhere

www.clean2a.nl

Hier ist die Flöte, die ich auf seinen Wunsch hin für ihn gebaut habe, nicht unbedingt als Bauplan, sondern eher als Inspiration dafür, wie das Schiff aussehen könnte, wenn er es fertiggestellt hat.

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Es ist ja sowieso nur Papier...

Am besten,
Ab

Hello Sir Ab Hoving , this is a wonderful sailing ship - great work . My best wishes and greets

 

[Ab Hoving]

Hello Holger,
Thanks for the compliment. In my humble opinion all Dutch 17th century ships are wonderful sailing ships.

Ab