Royal Louis 1/200 Heller

[Chrisb69]

Hello all!
hope you're having a good day!
I am currently refurbishing the Royal Louis Model I assembled almost 20 years ago!
I received the very good spare parts from HisModel online shop and I must confess that l got scared a little seeing hundreds of blocks and deadeyes in front of me ^^ but I am very with the quality of the parts I received.

I started back in early September painting using China Black ink some of the natural ropes I also got on that shop online



My first Blocks on the ship!

 

[Chrisb69]

I then started to remove the sails I sew back then, as you could tell they were not that great even thought I did the best I could.



I then painted in Black the yards, just like it was in the past in history.


Some more blocks!
I started assembling the large ones just to get use to it... and it is not as easy as it seems ahah


You are still seeing the old ropes, I hadn't removed then back then



Attaching a little chain left from some other kits to the rudder

 

[Chrisb69]

The "crane" was an very difficult moment for me but I am happy with the way it looks.. By the way I have since updated one end of the crane, under the first basket (thank you Radimir From HisModel for the feedback).



Trying shrouds with thicker vertical ropes and thinner horizontal ones. I tried in both colours without the Heller roping frame machine but the result isn't great.

I was also told that at my small scale 1:200, it would be probably best to keep the shrouds in Black.

The bottom shrouds of the rear Mast..
ropes through deadeyes are not glued yet so I can tighten them when on the ship

 

[Chrisb69]

I attached some rope to the canons at the back of them till the railings

I built some triangles to pack the canon balls using some tea steerers, and railing from other heller kits for the edges of the triangles.
The canon balls are from a famous Chinese online shop! Hope this is convincing






I also used some spare plastic parts to build a kitchen grill, the kitchen chimney and the chicken coop!
The chimney is made of mettalic left over of PE parts ^^

 

[WojtasS]

Hello
You've made a very good decision to reassemble your model. Radek has top quality pulleys and deadeyes.
Unfortunetly I don't agree on deadyes diameter, they're little oversized. I've made the same mistake on my model and many others.
I don't know whether you would like to hear my advice or on what stage you're at. I can point on some parts that could bring
your model more to historical look

The deadyes are little too big. I had oportunity to make model with correct size ones, but I couldn't tie them and used bigger. Now from time
perspective if you have patience place little smaller then what is shown in most build logs. It is a minor detail, but one of more important.
The smaller, the better, but I doubt you will find them in any online store




Those clamps on dead eyes are also too big. I wouldn't use them at all. You can try to solder chain as I did partialy, but there is easier method.
You can fake it wit thread soked in CA glue. Make a loop on desired height and then soke the thread to stiffen it.

Another mistake I made on my model-the
chain was inserted too low it should be on black belt above. My colleague on the Polish forum did something similar in Le Superbe 1/150



Bobstays- that conection on two deadeys with hull. Same thing I should get rid of hook and use a 1/1,5mm ring instead of dead eyes. Also I used pre drilled holes in hull. I should fix the holes and make a much smaller loops little above existing ones in black belt



Those build logs are top notch, I used them as inspiration, maybe you will reach that level as I couldn't

Le Superbe by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Heller - PLASTIC - Built as "Le Praetorian", after Boudriot

modelshipworld.com

Plastik: Royal Louis (Heller) 1:200 - Seite 7 - Bauberichte - Das Wettringer Modellbauforum

 

[Buster]

Some lovely work there..

 

[Chrisb69]

Some lovely work there..

Thank you

 

[Chrisb69]

Some lovely work there..

Thank you :

Hello
You've made a very good decision to reassemble your model. Radek has top quality pulleys and deadeyes.
Unfortunetly I don't agree on deadyes diameter, they're little oversized. I've made the same mistake on my model and many others.
I don't know whether you would like to hear my advice or on what stage you're at. I can point on some parts that could bring
your model more to historical look

The deadyes are little too big. I had oportunity to make model with correct size ones, but I couldn't tie them and used bigger. Now from time
perspective if you have patience place little smaller then what is shown in most build logs. It is a minor detail, but one of more important.
The smaller, the better, but I doubt you will find them in any online store

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Those clamps on dead eyes are also too big. I wouldn't use them at all. You can try to solder chain as I did partialy, but there is easier method.
You can fake it wit thread soked in CA glue. Make a loop on desired height and then soke the thread to stiffen it.

Another mistake I made on my model-the
chain was inserted too low it should be on black belt above. My colleague on the Polish forum did something similar in Le Superbe 1/150
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Bobstays- that conection on two deadeys with hull. Same thing I should get rid of hook and use a 1/1,5mm ring instead of dead eyes. Also I used pre drilled holes in hull. I should fix the holes and make a much smaller loops little above existing ones in black belt

View attachment 554078

Those build logs are top notch, I used them as inspiration, maybe you will reach that level as I couldn't

Le Superbe by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Heller - PLASTIC - Built as "Le Praetorian", after Boudriot

modelshipworld.com

Plastik: Royal Louis (Heller) 1:200 - Seite 7 - Bauberichte - Das Wettringer Modellbauforum

Thank you so much Wojta for the time you spent revieving my posts and your advice. I agree the dead eyes are a little too big but I already fit them all so I might try to fit them as it is to see how it looks like. But I think you are right I will change them.

Oh yes I also have boukmarked this stunning 74 Guns le superbe but I don't think I am capable of what he did.
I didn't know about the second link thank you so much again



I will change my hooks thank you

 

[Chrisb69]

I spent some time last week repainting the hull
Waterline in Black as it used to the case


I am painting the top railings in Black

I have then painted again in White the hull have sanded it

And to finish I have painted the top rear of the hull in blue- I have checked paintings and models and no French ships didn't have this part painted...


As I have used the Heller Shroud frame machine to glue with CA some ropes


So that I could de-assemble the gunport cover, glue the ropes and re-assemble it so it looks like the gunport cover has its manoeuvring rope!

 

[Chrisb69]

And finally what I did over the last couple of days was repainting the Stern.
My Stern was blue and gold but this choice of colour is anachronistic for a ship launched in 1780.
I tried to sum up my researches below:
1700 and before: gold and blue
From 1770 onwards: black and yellow of Naples - the gold became too expensive for the shipyards.


There is actually one and only painting of the Ship painted during the révolution in 1795: the Stern is yellow and black like other ships of the time


I am thinking of painting the ship before the révolution so my rationale is as following:
- gold should be replaced by yellow - gold was only used if only for coat of arms
- not much blue left (perhaps a little since Royal Louis and Soleil Royal are ships that are supposed to stand out from the other ships of the navy)
-Windows frame in white

I need to dismantle the Stern



I first try différent shades of yellow to replace the gold.


I tried the historic shade called Yellow of Naples but I find it very ugly like almost "toy-ish"


Ok I am reverting back to gold but before I need to use my drill to pierce some détails of the balcony

I am also planning to add more détails, some columns are missing on the sides of the Stern, I will glue two wires and paint them in gold.
I will have after to glue them at the right places.


And now for the fun I have some gold leaves left from a funny baking session! I will apply them on the Coat of arms of the balcony.
This is my technique to make the gold paint less gold compares to a "real" gold lol






And the final result!
I think I need to paint the bottom line in Black instead of blue and gold

 

[Chrisb69]

I have been using old telephone cable and pins to crafted the mettallic parts attached to the deadeyes

I just need to paint them black

 

[WojtasS]

I tried the historic shade called Yellow of Naples but I find it very ugly like almost "toy-ish"

You could use some wash to tone down color.

 

[Chrisb69]

You could use some wash to tone down color.

Some paint Wash?
Did you use the gold colour on your Royal Louis too? Or did you try with yellow too?

 

[WojtasS]

Gold

Wash?

Sth like this. I used dark yellow on yellow to change brightness of model. The dark color(black wash) will highlight the contours much more
On left is pre-wash