Schooner JACINTHE, Kgdm. of France, 1825 Scratch 1/64

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Dear Friends,


a healthy and merry 2025 for all of you!

As I want to start my YouTube channel "Berlin Card Yard'' this year I looked through all my projects - what ship to show in the build?

Most of my boats and ships do need a plenty of nerdish reconstruction. So I decided not to start with those as this is too complex and unshure in it's results. It is needed something "straight foreward" to show it in a series of short lifestreams (as I am unfit to cut and render online) on YouTube, so I was told in a lot of tutorials about starting a YouTube project.

So I leafed through my libary and was uncertain with a plenty of drawings I found made by MacGregor, Underhill, Marquardt and certainly others:
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So I leafed through books with drawings about Pilot Boats, Cat Boats, Sand Baggers, Fishing Luggers, Baltimore Clippers, small merchant vessels and a lot of them kissed my mind as ST.HELENA - GB,1814 nicely reconstructed:
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With a nice cut through in a seperated plate:
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But without of a plenty of details as always!

Then I turnt into my jewel of my shelfs into Ancre part of my libary and bumped into the following passage:

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Jean Boudriot gives this as his starter monography for modelbuilders and that single sentence was the very hook that took me! I dealt with her years ago I do know - but my stroke has vanished any reliable memory. Here a WL-type with full sails and the Pure White Royal Flag (1650-1789/1815-1830) of the Kingdom of France showing her real beauty:

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So I figured out my copied English version was in a removal box (but what box between "Ships N°1" and "Ships N°33" !?), but I was lucky this afternoon on "Ships N°9" - and now I am nearly able to start:

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But why this small French schooner from the Restauration Era with it's oppulently pictured monography?

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At first I do think, the decorative parts are very limited on the stern surrounding the transom easily light and lovely:

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Due to this the figurehead is not too complex to construct being a snake:

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JB made a plenty of suiperbe drawings for us without any CAD-errors in it:

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There are a plenty of details given in the monography and it's drawings - as the precise layout of the planking of JACINTHE here above.

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The scale of 1/48 is easily reduced by 75% on a Xerox to get the 1/64 drawings I do need. By this the hull length becomes 360mm/14" and I can deal with this hull in my 800×600mm card yard space in my Ikea Ivar shelf (even the 1/48 scale would be able with a managable 480mm length of hull).

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As I looked into the monography I figured out there are very detailed instructions on the masting...

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...and the sails and it's riggings:

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Here the drawings of all stentions needed for the handrail (or is it called bulkwalk instead?) in very nice detailling (on the left):

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As JB says a lathe is a crucial pice of equipment for JACINTHE so I am following His advise to build a stump masted hull model as a first step:

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By this I could "legally" avoid the pair of 12 pounder carronades on my first deck.

So this will be my start - tomorrow JACINTHE's plan set will have it's journey towards the copy shop and be reduced from 1/48 down to 1/64 for the first. It's clear to me I do left behind a plenty of other projects - but sometimes it is like this:

"The good's enemy is the better."

as we do say in Germany.


Thanks you very much and have a great first day in 2025, friends!
 
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Hello from my drawing table working in the 1/64 copy of JACINTHE - fitting absolutly into DIN A3 sheets of paper I do show my material to you.

But let's start with the beauty of the ship in Detail - we will come to the big Sheets in a moment.

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Here the spinned off DIN A4 sheets of the bow and transom and in detail from plate 2 for easier handling:

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Something not too big called "transom" I do think about the wreath surrounding in thick aluminium foil (to be cut out).

As I promised the big sheets all in all there are three of them for the planed hullmodel.

Plate 3 does hold the placing of the stanchions and detailling of the deck's furniture:

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Plate 1 does deal with the hull's lines and the bulkheads by tbis including the exact placement of any single plank, too:

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Here some further details for the interested ones:

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I may avoid the carronades but I am not really shure (also Wolfram zu Mondfeld argiued to think about the ready model at the very beginning of the planing - otherwise you have to do some rough planning ;) ...)

So thats the first step done - let's look foreward to the cutting of the (mirrowed) parts over the weekend.
 
Hello and good evenig from Berlin!

As always something is Missing - I forgot to mirror one Plate:

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So tomorrow I will have to redo this! Also I do need to enlarge the ribbon band to work in it toblater adding it reduced onto the transom:
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So I do think about the detailing and the build.

@Ab Hoving Dear Ab I found this picture of your Fleute -

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and dealt with it in my programm and it now it does look like this:
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You told about _"Decorative Self-Adhesive Film, Whitewood" - what colour you did use two paint these - and is the wooden texture in/close enough to scale? Did you use ink for weathering?

Could you kindly help me with this question?
 
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I really like the lines of schooners. I will be following along with great interest.

Bill
Thanks a lot, Bill - but it will be a rocky road to a simple pice of a model - nothing like Ab Hoving's wonderful artwork! Sorry for this!
If you like schooners here an interesting pice of source:
 

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Dear Friends

tomorrow I will start my first Video from the BERLIN CARD YARD workbrench after the findling the twin gauge ruler in my collection of drawings materials:
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"N°1 - Presenting The Project"
 
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Herro Friends, my rial with the YouTube Channel ended in a disaster - not a second was recorded, I will have to rearrange the hole thing.

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On the other hand I figured out I will need 3 mm thick card for the center(line)board - so I ordered a pile of sheets online - 50 pieces will be enough...

...hopefully.
IMG_20250105_173903_593.jpgA smaller sized DIN D3 (272×385mm) sized board was much cheaper than typ A3 (297×420mm) - so I ordered thes being long enough to do the job of 332mm length.

Sorry Ladies and Gentlemen.
That's all for today!
 
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This morning I couldn't find any sleep - so I invented an idea to get the spaces between the bulkheads filled (cheaper than by Balsa Wood).

As the bulkheads thickness is 3mm I can use the purchased cardboard.
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I pointed out every 2nd "WL" and have them Roman numbers to distinguish them from the bulkheads:
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After this the bulkheads we're drawn in in blue and...
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...the horizontal layers to place between the bulkheads are added- to give you some first idea I coloured WL-IV in pink and WL-VI in brown. By this we die get the Mosaik parts WE do need to fill the gaps between the bulkheads AND coming close the hull's shape:IMG_20250106_055907_797.jpg

I do know that Ab was able to work without such pices (but as I prefere to look on the bright side of life) to support the outside layers from softer cardboard. I hope to be able to support the soft cardboard not to sink in between the bulkheads as my scale isn't his 1/77 but my stays with 1/64 due to this the gap is a larger one.

That's sadly all I have to show on my progress to you this morning.
 
And as far as I do remember there was a plank nailed below the keel as a bumper to protect keel and copperplating from damage in case of sea floor contact.

Looking at this picture I do see a plank along the downside of the keel:
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So when cutting out the centerboard - I have to cut off this plank (Here coloured in Graphit Grey)?
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Thanks for you intrest and support.
 
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Dear Friends for the Schooner,

during my preparation for the filming I certainly had had a look onto the deck and it's furniture:
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By this I figured out there are not any capstains in the drawings - not even holes or any fixing structure!

Here both types (main one laying and smaller one standing) luckely in one picture; found in the "DREIMASTGALLIOT FRIEDERICH -WILHELM DER 2TE von 1789" by Geyer/Lexow/Sohn - (Rostock,1990) as a reference picture:

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First I do think about a rainy wet sail being lifted with an incredible weight of water in the canvas - and certainly the anchors (her together with Monsieur Isidor de Échelle for scale) of wrought iron:
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So could Jean Boudriot really have had forgotten such an important feature in the plan?

So I looked in the original and contemporary plans given to us in the monography:

But nor the bigger LA BÉRNAISE of 1832
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here the deck and side view in detail:
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Not the more progressed LA MUTINE do show
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any capstains or even fixing points for the massive construction:
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So what to do about this mess?
 
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So I looked for any other sources and bumped into a replica of the IRIS-class schooner "still alive and kicking" at Brest...

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As LA RECOUVRANCE of Brest do have working sails there must be made able to be handled! So I looked into the photos on Wikipedia and there it was:


It is an imposing piece of equipment being driven by a forklift:
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And the view over the deck shows the placing right in the bow:
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And exactly here it is placed as it should be:
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But in the original drawings by JB we do not find any hint to this important feature in the plan:Polish_20250108_183331143.jpg

...but the galley is given to us in page 47 of the English monography very detailed:

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and due to this you have to buy your next monography... ;)
 
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And as far as I do remember there was a plank nailed below the keel as a bumper to protect keel and copperplating from damage in case of sea floor contact.

Looking at this picture I do see a plank along the downside of the keel:
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So when cutting out the centerboard - I have to cut off this plank (Here coloured in Graphit Grey)?
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Thanks for you intrest and support.
As this lowest "bumper plank" is running along the hole keel without any pomp and circumstances
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I decided to left it away from the center board - to add it above the copper plating later on. One of the easiest decissions to make...
 
So I looked for any other sources and bumped into a replica of the IRIS-class schooner "still alive and kicking" at Brest...

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As LA RECOUVRANCE of Brest do have working sails there must be made able to be handled! So I looked into the photos on Wikipedia and there it was:


It is an imposing piece of equipment being driven by a forklift:
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And the view over the deck shows the placing right in the bow:
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And exactly here it is placed as it should be:
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But in the original drawings by JB we do not find any hint to this important feature in the plan:View attachment 494186

...but the galley is given to us in page 47 of the English monography very detailed:

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and due to this you have to buy your next monography... ;)

I did find an incredible building block in here for the Pinky Schooner DOVE based on the Chapelle planset built by @polydoc on a Level of Detail I hopefully can follows:unnamed (2).jpg


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in this I found an interesting little detail to Deal with the very same problems of lifting heavy items aboard:

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The laying capstain in the stem end of the deck - I will Look into my Chapelle's "The Fishing Schooner" and try to copie the structure...

What is your opinion to this idea?
 
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