So Here's My First Kit Thoughts

[Uwek]

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I have this tool also (tip from @Dubz Modelling World ) and it is working very good for planking works

 

[Ata]

for this model particularly i do not need normal bending which is easy but kinda twisting wood horizontal middle section and vertical at tips. is there an easy way for this?

 

[ubjs]

Here is a link to a YouTube video on building the Pram kit.
Link here\
Maybe that will help.

Yes, I have studied that video several times and it gives some answers.

But if I again compare Polaris and Norwegian Pram, there are about 80 video clips that describe the Polaris build in detail.
Feel free to check one of them and you will see the difference.

Como construir el POLARIS de OcCre.

Como construir el barco de iniciación de OcCre. El Polaris. En este video tutorial te enseñamos como construir de principio a fin el barco de iniciación Pola...

www.youtube.com

 

[ubjs]

¨for this model particularly i do not need normal bending which is easy but kinda twisting wood horizontal middle section and vertical at tips. is there an easy way for this?¨

You could use the heating tool for that. Put the strip in hot tapwater for 10-20 minutes and then form the strip the way you want it with the heating tool (I use to secure the tool to the table so I can use both hand to bend the list).
When I have the right shape I also dry the list with the tool and directly glue it.

 

[Corsair]

for this model particularly i do not need normal bending which is easy but kinda twisting wood horizontal middle section and vertical at tips. is there an easy way for this?

Many ships will require a twist while incorporating a bend as well. For example, the plank at the top of the bow will of course need to be bent to the shape around the bow, but it will also need to be twisted slightly because the lower edge of the plank bends more than the top edge of the plank does and also because it will be shaped upward because the very bow of the ship is higher than the midships.

As @ubjs stated above, use two hands to hold the plank. Secure the soldering iron (or other device) to the work bench. I have used a small vise that clamps to the table.

Hope that helps.

Jeff

 

[Uwek]

Greetings group... New to the forum and new to the hobby.

So I am fascinated with the idea of Scratch Building model ships. Never built one in my life. I have no clue even where to begin. AND I'm not even sure I would like the hobby... However I have built plastic plane models over the years as well as metal earth models and the sort.

So here is my theory.

I have found a really and I mean really cheap Chinese Kit on Amazon for $17 bucks. I believe it's scale is 1/100. Needless to say it has several "skill" elements required to build it. Hull Rib Construction, Planking, Mast and Rigging skills. As I'm unsure that I want to build from kits at this time my thought is I can purchase several of these cheaper kits to practice and learn the craft. Making all my mistakes and errors on those. Then after my confidence level is higher and I'm sure I want to do this as a hobby I would purchase a set of plans to build from. Speaking of which I would love any direction to good quality scratch build plans either free or available for purchase. Not to mention any recommendations on books or videos on scratch building.

I have a Filament 3D Printer, a 1000mm by 1500mm CNC, a Diode Laser and a full blown woodworking shop. Not to mention several hand tools like a Dremel, hand saw, micro drill bits and so on. So when I'm ready to pull the trigger on my first serious build I'll have the tools to do so. I just need the skills.

So what has been everyone's experience? Better to start with a kit and learn the ropes or does my plan have merit? I'm sure it's all relative but have you found scratch building harder than kits? Easier than kits or about the same?

Hallo @K_Collins
we wish you all the BEST and a HAPPY BIRTHDAY

 

[Corsair]

Happy birthday !
I would love to see how your 1/100 build is coming along !

Jeff

 

[Senorbob]

Thanks for the tip Corsair. I'll look into those. I could handle spending $100 or so to do some learning. And if the quality of learning would be better on these models then it's a definite win... I love the looks of the Occre Polaris and the Albatross. Those had caught my eye back when I first started looking into maybe kinda sorta getting into this hobby. But wanted to do some learning first so I could give them a solid effort. I'm an avid woodworker so I have the background. I just need the skills. You have me thinking Corsair... Thanks.

The occre Polaris is a good model (except the rigging instructions are lacking) on the plus side many videos are available on YouTube. Watch a couple and see what you think. Occre is very good sending parts etc

 

[Carleroo]

Obviously, many opinions, but also some common themes in the responses you're seeing. Just starting out, there are two things I would note.

First, don't underestimate your ability to deal with an entry level kit. Attention to detail and being able to read instructions are the big wins as you start out. You already have those skills from working on other models.

Second, avoid kits that have poor or little instructions when you start out. You'll just become frustrated and that will turn you off from pursuing the hobby further. Simply purchase a decent beginner kit as others have noted, because, at the end of process, you'll likely do a good enough job you're going to want to keep it. Then you'll not only have a feeling of accomplishment, but also be proud of what you've build, and more importantly... have the confidence to try a bigger kit for your second project.

Tools? A decent x-acto knife and sharp blades are your friend. Much of what you do won't require power tools of any soft. A small hand drill and micro bits will come in useful, and for other drilling work, a small sized rechargeable hand drill (think something in the line of a tool an inch or less in diameter and maybe five or six inches long). Small clamps. Lots of them. lol Although I haven't searched for it here, I suspect there's a thread that speaks to what a beginner's tool kit should consist of. Much of what you've learned building plastic kits will have practical value as you begin to work with wooden kits. The really big difference is that you'll be fabricating things from wood and metal, rather than having everything pre-formed on a spru.

Good luck with your first build. Be patient. Take your time. Thoroughly review the plans and read the instructions several times so you fully understand what you need to do. Envision what you're doing in your head first before you pick up a tool. Often, trying to work through a build step in your head first allows you to pick up on details that will be important, or clue you in to knowing you need to look at it more closely before proceeding.

 

[Carleroo]

For me having a kit with great instructions is important. I have enjoyed working with Occre's kits because of the level of detail, photos, and instructional videos.