Please excuse my intrusion into your build group, however I am scratch building a sister ship, Medea, so I watch this forum as well.
Not knowing where to start back in 2017-18 I went to the Internet and discovered plans of Enterprise, apparently drawn up in (I believe) Poland as a project relating to Master and Commander. They seemed freely available to download so I started there.
From there I found the paintings which you have all seen, depicting Enterprise as a built model.
It should be reasonable to assume that this is an accurate representation of the model. These contemporary models were often built for the King's collection.
NOTE.
The model has a single wheel as appropriate for the period.
There is no hammock netting crane on the breast-rail.
The Polish Plans show both a double wheel and the hammock crane on the breast-rail (side profile only).
The models.
I don't know all the names of the different companies but all the ones I have followed on SOS seem to be CAF or similar.
All that I have noted show both a double wheel and the hammock netting crane on the breast-rail. Examples are -
I have trawled through Gardner: The Sailing Frigate and have found only one model with a hammock netting crane across the breast rail. This is
SLR0315
"This model is usually catalogued as Amazon (an identity given credence by the figurehead). It certainly shows a remarkable correspondence with the design draught for Williams’ new class, right down to the shape of the rails, and the precise positions of swivel stocks and timberheads. However, it only relates to the first three ordered in 1770-1, as the later ships of 1778 and beyond differed in a number of minor topside details. One intriguing variation from the draught is the model’s inclusion of a bridle port, a feature that seems to have died out completely in post-Slade frigates, only reappearing in the mid-1790s. Note the narrow gangways, fitted below the level of the forecastle and quarterdeck, with their hammock netting cranes; these iron double stanchions normally supported netting into which the tightly rolled hammocks of the crew were stowed, providing limited protection against small-arms fire in battle. There are also four iron yokes for swivel guns on each gangway".
Surprisingly, this model also shows a dual wheel. My next post will explain why this is unlikely, either for Amazon or Enterprise .
Again, I'm trying to draw attention to anomalies which I have discovered in my research, but usually too late for my build to be historically accurate. Some things I can and will correct if my health gives me time....
Kind regards
Ian
Not knowing where to start back in 2017-18 I went to the Internet and discovered plans of Enterprise, apparently drawn up in (I believe) Poland as a project relating to Master and Commander. They seemed freely available to download so I started there.
From there I found the paintings which you have all seen, depicting Enterprise as a built model.
It should be reasonable to assume that this is an accurate representation of the model. These contemporary models were often built for the King's collection.
NOTE.
The model has a single wheel as appropriate for the period.
There is no hammock netting crane on the breast-rail.
The Polish Plans show both a double wheel and the hammock crane on the breast-rail (side profile only).
The models.
I don't know all the names of the different companies but all the ones I have followed on SOS seem to be CAF or similar.
All that I have noted show both a double wheel and the hammock netting crane on the breast-rail. Examples are -
I have trawled through Gardner: The Sailing Frigate and have found only one model with a hammock netting crane across the breast rail. This is
SLR0315
"This model is usually catalogued as Amazon (an identity given credence by the figurehead). It certainly shows a remarkable correspondence with the design draught for Williams’ new class, right down to the shape of the rails, and the precise positions of swivel stocks and timberheads. However, it only relates to the first three ordered in 1770-1, as the later ships of 1778 and beyond differed in a number of minor topside details. One intriguing variation from the draught is the model’s inclusion of a bridle port, a feature that seems to have died out completely in post-Slade frigates, only reappearing in the mid-1790s. Note the narrow gangways, fitted below the level of the forecastle and quarterdeck, with their hammock netting cranes; these iron double stanchions normally supported netting into which the tightly rolled hammocks of the crew were stowed, providing limited protection against small-arms fire in battle. There are also four iron yokes for swivel guns on each gangway".
Surprisingly, this model also shows a dual wheel. My next post will explain why this is unlikely, either for Amazon or Enterprise .
Again, I'm trying to draw attention to anomalies which I have discovered in my research, but usually too late for my build to be historically accurate. Some things I can and will correct if my health gives me time....
Kind regards
Ian
