Staghound...Extreme clipper 1850 by rwiederrich 1/96

Its even smaller than dollhouse scale...which I think is O scale and larger.

I've run into a problem.... the drawing you made depicts pillars at the corners of the portico front and side walls. Two pillars...one from each side against each other kind looks weird...leaving a small gap between them were they join. I'm going to see if I can fill it in......

Rob
Rob,
My solution would be to have a corner post on each front end that wraps around the side for the matching post on the fore end of the side door, envision a 3/4ths post where a wedge is cut out to fit it. Maybe slice a round toothpick vertically in half and attach one side to each corner? On the full-sized structure, that's how I'm sure it would have been done. I'll sketch it out to scale to help you envision it.
 
It could end up looking like the main cabin with the corners cut out to form a 45 right angle face for each corner.

Rob
 
It could end up looking like the main cabin with the corners cut out to form a 45 right angle face for each corner.

Rob
Rob,
When you decide to switch to flat rectangular windows, it made sense to drop the smaller pillars and just have the 6 remaining tall ones, 2 surrounding the side doors and 4 in front. Of those justvthe 2 front corners would be 3/4ths wrap-around, the 4 others would be half circles. In my earlier more intricate design, the door sides would have had a slight projection, thus creating an inset for the rear sides and back.
I finished adding the pillars , windows and doors.
Through on a little first coat of paint too.

Rob

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@rwiederrich
For such a tiny structure, you have managed to fit in an amazing amount of detail. Smaller than dollhouse scale and just superlative! I love the innovative three window treatment for the sides too.
 
It could end up looking like the main cabin with the corners cut out to form a 45 right angle face for each corner.

Rob
Rob,
When you decided to switch to flat rectangular windows, it made sense to drop the smaller pillars and just have the 6 remaining tall ones, 2 surrounding the side doors and 4 in front. Of those just the 2 front corners would be 3/4ths wrap-around, the 4 others would be half circles. In my earlier more intricate design, the door sides would have had a slight projection, thus creating an inset for the rear sides and back.
 
Next, I will stain the roof, add the border stanchion trim and stanchions. I still need to add the exterior edge molding, before I add the steps and their railings.

Thanks for all the likes an visits.;)

Rob
 
Lastly,I painted the railing. I’ll add the aft steps later. Too many things that can get broken.
I finished this project, now onto the next bit of detail…… the 10ft X 6ft 4” main skylight.

Fun fun fun….

Rob

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Rob,
Based just on what you've built so far, I'd say you're well on your way to fashioning another spectacular scratch built replica! I've attached a couple photos of one of the skylights on Glory of the Seas. They were each 6' long × 4' wide × 3' high. Center section with raised glass lites looks to be a little over 2' wide, with an outer seating area of 1' (10" with 2" overhang encircling entire lower section).
The only difference on would be 10' long instead of 6' long. The width would remain 4' wide, with the same structural dimensions. As you can see from my skylight illustration, the center section just isn't that wide. It's really an impressive looking structure of its own. There also appear to be wooden venerian blind type slats which can be opened or closed to accomodate different weather conditions. There also appears to be two tones, one darker trim (either wood or blue) and the rest of the body pearl colored.

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Well, of course after Rob finishes his beautifully crafted portico, I finally finished my conceptual design. I did benefit from Rob's fascinating triple side window which helped me balance out the sides. To give you a sense of his miniature skills, Rob's delicate structure is 1/2 the size of my sketches!

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I’m gonna make the skylight in the same design, but only make it 10ft long instead of 6ft. All other dimensions will be the same.
 
Well, of course after Rob finishes his beautifully crafted portico, I finally finished my conceptual design. I did benefit from Rob's fascinating triple side window which helped me balance out the sides. To give you a sense of his miniature skills, Rob's delicate structure is 1/2 the size of my sketches!
Timing is everything..... I love your concept of the larger, arched windows for the sides, however...I was making the transition from carriage house to skylight. It's all conceptual anyway....so we have artistic license to move in the direction our skill permits. I tried to keep the portico as representative to your beautiful drawing as possible. I still think a good compromise has been reached. Just didn't want you to think I wasn't following your designs.

Rob
 
Rob,

I have been following your build on MSW with interest but have been restricting from posting as I angered the NRG board, egged on by certain kit manufacturers!

Re; The Naval Hood Discussion
When Clipper Fan mentions Donald Mc Kay’s “Unique Naval Hood.” I assume that he is describing the trailboard assembly beneath the bowsprit that supported the figurehead. Am I correct?

Second question, lots of ships had trailboards. Is Clipper Fan saying that they were unique to clippers? If not, what feature made them different from ordinary trailboard assemblies?

One of the Contemporary descriptions of Staghound refers to “hood ends.” The term is often used to describe the planking ends where they fit into the stem rabbit (Gardner, Building Small Craft). So, the term used in this contex is probably not referring to the existence of a Naval Hood.

Roger
 
Rob,

I have been following your build on MSW with interest but have been restricting from posting as I angered the NRG board, egged on by certain kit manufacturers!

Re; The Naval Hood Discussion
When Clipper Fan mentions Donald Mc Kay’s “Unique Naval Hood.” I assume that he is describing the trailboard assembly beneath the bowsprit that supported the figurehead. Am I correct?

Second question, lots of ships had trailboards. Is Clipper Fan saying that they were unique to clippers? If not, what feature made them different from ordinary trailboard assemblies?

One of the Contemporary descriptions of Staghound refers to “hood ends.” The term is often used to describe the planking ends where they fit into the stem rabbit (Gardner, Building Small Craft). So, the term used in this contex is probably not referring to the existence of a Naval Hood.

Roger
Hi Roger. First , there are no traiboards on McKay clippers. A trail board is a decorative piece. The naval hood supports and stem or cut water. The hood is a structural member, and only McKay utilized it. It was one of his guarded Secrets.
 
Rob,

I have been following your build on MSW with interest but have been restricting from posting as I angered the NRG board, egged on by certain kit manufacturers!

Re; The Naval Hood Discussion
When Clipper Fan mentions Donald Mc Kay’s “Unique Naval Hood.” I assume that he is describing the trailboard assembly beneath the bowsprit that supported the figurehead. Am I correct?

Second question, lots of ships had trailboards. Is Clipper Fan saying that they were unique to clippers? If not, what feature made them different from ordinary trailboard assemblies?

One of the Contemporary descriptions of Staghound refers to “hood ends.” The term is often used to describe the planking ends where they fit into the stem rabbit (Gardner, Building Small Craft). So, the term used in this contex is probably not referring to the existence of a Naval Hood.

Roger
Roger,
What has led to literally 1,000s of incorrectly modeled Flying Cloud, Flying Fish, Sovereign of the Seas, Lightning and at least one Stag Hound clipper ships has been a complete erasure of what Rob and I now refer to as "the unique McKay bow". As a result of this fundamental misunderstanding, all McKay clipper models (until two Glory of the Seas replicas painstakenly built by Rob and Vladimir) have nothing but a bare stem for a head! In a way, Donald McKay is to blame, as he jealously guarded this secret so well that it's taken 174 years to rediscover it! As proof of this intentional secrecy, there's a clipper ship Lightning sheer plan, sketched in McKay's own hand. Mysteriously, the entire bow is left completely blank. Even his own son Cornelius admitted that clipper ship designers jealously guarded there plans. So here's the difference between McKay's navel hoods and traditional decorative trail boards or head boards. The latter are essentially extraneous decorative pieces which add no structural support to the prow. We've learned that navel hoods on the contrary are far more substantial. They're nothing like decorative pieces. They are in fact extensions of the ship's hull which overlap the cutwater below and support the bowsprit above. I'll share fellow Scottsman Duncan McLean's evaluation of these rugged devices, first referred to as "navel hoods" by him in his lengthy description of McKay's second California clipper Flying Cloud. Somehow nobody's figured out exactly what The Boston Daily Atlas article meant before this. If you look closely at the two pictures of Glory of the Seas you'll notice that the ornately carved navel hoods remain intact, while trail boards and head boards can be washed away. After the  Lightning illustration, there are two Glory of the Seas pictures that feature her integral navel hoods and cutwater. First pic is a close up of the famous Black photo from 1869 shortly before her launch. The second one is of her starboard bow in 1913, 44 years later. Her upper navel hood is completely intact. Her cutwater is missing the original ornate carvings but otherwise is also well maintained. Last image is of a more typical clipper prow. In this case it's of the famous Great Admiral. She has an ornately decorated cutwater to which her full sized figurehead is mounted, but no navel hoods. Rob and I have looked at dozens of clippers, not a one has the rugged McKay bow.

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Timing is everything..... I love your concept of the larger, arched windows for the sides, however...I was making the transition from carriage house to skylight. It's all conceptual anyway....so we have artistic license to move in the direction our skill permits. I tried to keep the portico as representative to your beautiful drawing as possible. I still think a good compromise has been reached. Just didn't want you to think I wasn't following your designs.

Rob
Rob,
Considering the tiny size of a 1:96th scale structure, I think you did an excellent job, as usual. I was merely pointing out that my delayed conceptual sketch didn't match your brilliant work.
By the way, relocating ship's wheel housing and correcting companion size, a 13' large skylight does fit. I'm about 90% done on the entire 44' poop deck and expect to be done tomorrow.
 
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