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USS Constitution - Model Shipways (kitbashed) 1:76.8 by GGibson

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I, too, am one of those folks that had an ongoing build log on Model Ship World before its demise. The USS Constitution is my 6th ship since my retirement in 2020, so… I guess that works out to an average of about one a year, so far? This Constitution will take longer than that.

When I began my Constitution build, I was fortunate to find several completed build logs, as well as several ongoing build logs from builders who I have been able to follow, learn from, ask questions and contribute to their logs. Fortunately, several of those gentlemen either were also here on SoS from the start or have migrated here in similar situations as I and it’s nice to see them all here. I hope to also make some new shipmodeler friends as I continue working on my Constitution.

Even though I am sure to stumble often, your collective display of persistent encouragement will hopefully carry me through to a magnificent completion… however long it takes! Ha!

I am fairly early on in this build, as I began it in late June 2025 with a few lengthy breaks during that time for various reasons (this is a hobby, right? ) As I began planning for this build, I really wanted to concentrate on the 1812 version, even though the Model Shipways kit is designed more around its 1927 restoration period. I never really considered the original 1797 ship version, or the 1927 or 2015 major revisions. I want to do my best to stay as close as I can to that 1812 Captain Issac Hull model.

I also wanted to do a bit of kit-bashing, as some others have done, exposing as much of a detailed gun deck as I can. Another builder who completed a magnificent Constitution coined the term “1812-ish” and that is my goal, as well. This will not be a historically accurate museum piece but rather will be one that I will enjoy building as mine. I am guaranteed to get frustrated multiple times in the build process, but I will definitely have fun. And that’s what it’s all about…

With that said, here’s the current status of my Constitution. I have removed the kit’s spar deck beams, laid the inner waterways and planksheers, laid the gundeck planking, framed the gundeck’s gunports and painted the gundeck’s inner bulwarks.


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At this stage, several builders have begun preparing the knees that the new, exposed spar deck beams will rest on, while others have begun the outer hull planking. After some thought and discussion with others, I’ve decided to actually do both! I really do want to get started on the hull planking, and the process of creating new knees will be slow, and there are a bunch of them to make, so let’s do those while I begin planking.

Time to make a bunch of knees! In looking at how to make these “en masse”, I first needed to determine what size they would be. To make this determination, I (of course) reviewed several of the build logs that I had already been referring to in other areas, as well as researching what I could find on this intended “1812-ish” version of the Constitution.

I am using as one of my resources Laurence Arnot’s “U.S.S. Constitution 1812-1815 Bicentennial Edition” which was issued in consort with BlueJacket’s Constitution kit to replicate as best as possible the ship during that period.


BlueJacket_1812.jpg

In discussing spardeck framing, its beam locations and the required hanging (vertical), lodging (horizontal) and diagonal knees to secure the beams, it refers to US Navy Plan #17636 as a part of the 1927 restoration which has a drawing of the spardeck framing, as well as drawings of the knees with dimensions. It was both helpful and confusing, as I found a couple of different dimensions referenced in the book.

260427a-GDKnees.jpeg

While the dimensions are different in a few places, getting the knees down to a 1:76.8 scale should make those measurement differences unnoticeable. I cut a 12” strip of 1/8” thick basswood at a slightly larger width than what I thought the length of the hanging knees would be. Also, while the bulwarks change angles along the length of ship, I felt that an 80 degree angle for at least a good number of the hanging knees was appropriate for cutting the side of the knees that rested against the bulwark. Using an angle protractor, I marked that 80 degree slope on the basswood. I then hand-drew some variations of what the knee should look like. I chose the far left version.

260427b-GDKnees.jpeg

Using a technique I saw on another Constitution build log, I connected my Dremel to a drill press workstation stand and sanded the outer curved shape of the knee, cleaning it up with sanding sticks. Using my Byrnes saw, I then cut the knee free from the basswood strip. Doing it this way provides a nice “handle” for when you are sanding on the Dremel.

260427c-GDKnees.jpeg

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All in all, I like the way the knee came out. It fits well against the bulwark with a flat top for the new spar deck beams to eventually rest on top of.

260427e-GDKnees.jpeg

I will now use this “master knee” to trace the remaining knees for cutting/sanding. I will test-fit the knees against the bulwarks as the angles slightly change. I will also narrow the width of the basswood strips I cut so we won’t have the waste at the bottom of the knees when they are sanded.

260427f-GDKnees.jpeg

The US Navy plans do provide slightly different measurements for the lodging knees and diagonal knees. Some build logs and instruction books suggest making all the knees identical and then shape them as necessary. I can maybe understand that for the diagonal knees, but it would appear the lodging knees would have to be a slightly smaller scale to properly fit between the required beams. We’ll see about that when we get to that point.

With that said, I am excited, as well, to begin work on the exterior planking, both on the outside of the gundeck and spar deck, in addition to the hull planking in preparation for eventual coppering. Updates on all of this will be coming up sometime soon. But, first, I probably should take a break this weekend to celebrate the awesome Mother’s in my life… my wife, my daughter, my daughter-in-law!!! And, Happy Mother’s Day to all the great moms out there!
 
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Just so you know, I have the complete text and photos of your MSW log, should you want it. That offer goes to any MSW USS Constitution builder that lost their log. There is a good chance I have a copy of it.

Jon
 
Wow! Do you have XKen's too?

After going through the effort of posting my personal build logs here, I don't know if I now want to go back and fill in the blanks with what you might have by way of back and forth between members. Are you saying that you have captured every single page of the MSW build logs. Now, that's dedication. Or just the posts with pictures and descriptions?
 
I never trusted the internet because it doesn't stay static. Many places where I found reference material are gone now because they have either removed or moved it. Or in our case, it got destroyed. Every log I followed, I copied it each time I visited it. I did however edit out unimportant stuff that didn't pertain to the build. So, yes, I have Ken Forans (xKen) complete USS Constitution build log (text and pictures). However, it is technical not mine, but Ken's and ideally he should republish to the public, not me, especially on a website that it was not on previously. Once MSW is up and running again, I'll contact them and let them notify the owners of their logs all is not lost.

The only thing I can do, is search on it for information that you might need answers to.

Jon
 
Just so you know, I have the complete text and photos of your MSW log, should you want it. That offer goes to any MSW USS Constitution builder that lost their log. There is a good chance I have a copy of it.
And thank you for the offer, Jon, but I have all of my content I written up and saved in Word docs. I appreciate your efforts, though!
 
Hi guys,
I unfortunately did not save my log, but thankfully Jon had it and reached out to me. What I God send. I just publicly wanted to state what an incredible, and totally unselfish contributor Jon is helping all of us and always providing whatever he has in his fantastic library of information.
Jon, hats off sir!

(Gregg, sorry to hijack your log, but it seemed appropriate to the topic)
 
I, too, am one of those folks that had an ongoing build log on Model Ship World before its demise. The USS Constitution is my 6th ship since my retirement in 2020, so… I guess that works out to an average of about one a year, so far? This Constitution will take longer than that.

When I began my Constitution build, I was fortunate to find several completed build logs, as well as several ongoing build logs from builders who I have been able to follow, learn from, ask questions and contribute to their logs. Fortunately, several of those gentlemen either were also here on SoS from the start or have migrated here in similar situations as I and it’s nice to see them all here. I hope to also make some new shipmodeler friends as I continue working on my Constitution.

Even though I am sure to stumble often, your collective display of persistent encouragement will hopefully carry me through to a magnificent completion… however long it takes! Ha!

I am fairly early on in this build, as I began it in late June 2025 with a few lengthy breaks during that time for various reasons (this is a hobby, right? ) As I began planning for this build, I really wanted to concentrate on the 1812 version, even though the Model Shipways kit is designed more around its 1927 restoration period. I never really considered the original 1797 ship version, or the 1927 or 2015 major revisions. I want to do my best to stay as close as I can to that 1812 Captain Issac Hull model.

I also wanted to do a bit of kit-bashing, as some others have done, exposing as much of a detailed gun deck as I can. Another builder who completed a magnificent Constitution coined the term “1812-ish” and that is my goal, as well. This will not be a historically accurate museum piece but rather will be one that I will enjoy building as mine. I am guaranteed to get frustrated multiple times in the build process, but I will definitely have fun. And that’s what it’s all about…

With that said, here’s the current status of my Constitution. I have removed the kit’s spar deck beams, laid the inner waterways and planksheers, laid the gundeck planking, framed the gundeck’s gunports and painted the gundeck’s inner bulwarks.



At this stage, several builders have begun preparing the knees that the new, exposed spar deck beams will rest on, while others have begun the outer hull planking. After some thought and discussion with others, I’ve decided to actually do both! I really do want to get started on the hull planking, and the process of creating new knees will be slow, and there are a bunch of them to make, so let’s do those while I begin planking.

Time to make a bunch of knees! In looking at how to make these “en masse”, I first needed to determine what size they would be. To make this determination, I (of course) reviewed several of the build logs that I had already been referring to in other areas, as well as researching what I could find on this intended “1812-ish” version of the Constitution.

I am using as one of my resources Laurence Arnot’s “U.S.S. Constitution 1812-1815 Bicentennial Edition” which was issued in consort with BlueJacket’s Constitution kit to replicate as best as possible the ship during that period.



In discussing spardeck framing, its beam locations and the required hanging (vertical), lodging (horizontal) and diagonal knees to secure the beams, it refers to US Navy Plan #17636 as a part of the 1927 restoration which has a drawing of the spardeck framing, as well as drawings of the knees with dimensions. It was both helpful and confusing, as I found a couple of different dimensions referenced in the book.


While the dimensions are different in a few places, getting the knees down to a 1:76.8 scale should make those measurement differences unnoticeable. I cut a 12” strip of 1/8” thick basswood at a slightly larger width than what I thought the length of the hanging knees would be. Also, while the bulwarks change angles along the length of ship, I felt that an 80 degree angle for at least a good number of the hanging knees was appropriate for cutting the side of the knees that rested against the bulwark. Using an angle protractor, I marked that 80 degree slope on the basswood. I then hand-drew some variations of what the knee should look like. I chose the far left version.


Using a technique I saw on another Constitution build log, I connected my Dremel to a drill press workstation stand and sanded the outer curved shape of the knee, cleaning it up with sanding sticks. Using my Byrnes saw, I then cut the knee free from the basswood strip. Doing it this way provides a nice “handle” for when you are sanding on the Dremel.


All in all, I like the way the knee came out. It fits well against the bulwark with a flat top for the new spar deck beams to eventually rest on top of.


I will now use this “master knee” to trace the remaining knees for cutting/sanding. I will test-fit the knees against the bulwarks as the angles slightly change. I will also narrow the width of the basswood strips I cut so we won’t have the waste at the bottom of the knees when they are sanded.


The US Navy plans do provide slightly different measurements for the lodging knees and diagonal knees. Some build logs and instruction books suggest making all the knees identical and then shape them as necessary. I can maybe understand that for the diagonal knees, but it would appear the lodging knees would have to be a slightly smaller scale to properly fit between the required beams. We’ll see about that when we get to that point.

With that said, I am excited, as well, to begin work on the exterior planking, both on the outside of the gundeck and spar deck, in addition to the hull planking in preparation for eventual coppering. Updates on all of this will be coming up sometime soon. But, first, I probably should take a break this weekend to celebrate the awesome Mother’s in my life… my wife, my daughter, my daughter-in-law!!! And, Happy Mother’s Day to all the great moms out there!
I know this isn’t a question pertaining to where you are in the build, but I didn’t know where else to ask the question. I am a fellow follower from MSW before they went down. I am just starting my Connie, and I am following Rob Hunt. However I am at the very beginning and just copied over all my reference lines to my center keel. However when I moved in to the glue up, my stem sections reference line is about 3/16 inch higher that the others. Do I need to modify the tabs where they join, and have deal with the uneven keel/false keel, or do I draw a new reference line that follows the other two? Any suggestions?
 
Well, it has been almost a month already since I have provided an update. But who has ever said that these build logs have to show quick results?!? I’ve done a little work on my Constitution but most of my time has been devoted to some outdoor springtime activities. One of those activities was our oldest granddaughter’s graduation from the University of Kansas and all of the celebrations surrounding that achievement. And she is now off to law school this fall. Whew!

While I have continued to work on creating, cutting and shaping those knees to be placed on the gundeck bulwarks supporting the new spar deck beam supports, I have also begun work (slowly) on the exterior hull planking work. In reading the instruction manual and plans that came with the Model Shipways kit and reviewing all the other Constitution build logs, this exterior work begins with the accurate placement of what appears to be the gundeck level planksheer (is this referred to as the sheer strake?). Like most of the other strakes that are above the wale, this first one is a 3/32 x 3/64” basswood strip.

In placing that strip at the same level as the inner gundeck planksheer and then testing the position by adding two planks above it, that top strip will sit 1/32” below the gun deck gunports in order to provide a back ledge for their lids. So, this positioning looks good. I then marked this placement on all of the bulwarks on both sides of the ship for this first strake placement.

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Since I was beginning at the bow, I had to get that first piece of basswood strip pretty hot in order for it to get its shape around the bow’s curvature. I did that by simply holding it under a stream of hot water from the tap, and that worked nicely. It then fit nicely against the rabbet at the bow and wrapped around to Bulkhead F. I will continue planking back to the stern from there.

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This positioning looks good. I will now complete this strake for the length of the ship on both sides and work up, forming the planking around the gunports and up to the spar deck level.

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The outer planksheer that sits outside of the spar deck planksheer point will be slightly thicker than its adjacent strakes (1/16” vs. 3/64”), sitting a bit proud of its neighbors. I’m also unsure yet whether I will plank everything up to the main rail level and then cut the spar deck gunports in after, similar to what it appears Mustafa did, or form those spar deck gunports when I get there like many of the other builders have done. I also will need to address the differences in the “1812-ish” appearance, including its open waist.

Time to continue working! Well, after another week-long travel break this coming week. It is, after all, a retirement hobby! As always, I appreciate the likes, follows, comments and criticisms. Thanks!
 
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