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L'Orenoque Mamoli 1:100 scale

As to L'Orenoque, well, I'll have to ask for your grace for a couple more days, particularly Martin @ROUGHLY MARTIN. I want to do your posts justice, kind sir! Why? Having just returned from the Emerald Isle, I finally managed to get Harriet Lane under glass yesterday and I promised my shipmate @Peter Gutterman a detailed entry on her once I was well and truly finished, to which I will give the rest of my evening. After I've had my grog, that is.;)

Blessings.
Chuck
 
What ho, shipmates!

I don't know why, but I remain amazed at how time flies. Thank all of you for checking in on this log. I promise to get started sooner rather than later.

So, "What's the hold up?", you may ask. Well, there was the 50 mile ultra marathon and the end of the semester and a trip to Ireland. All of that took up way too much time. And since Brad @BradNSW was interested in how the ultra went, I'll spend a post on that experience.

I've been a cowboy all my life. I've also been Superman and Batman. One of the things cowboys have is big belt buckles. They earn them. Earning a belt buckle was near the top of the bucket list I have been constructing in my head lately. So, how does a 60-year-old man earn a belt buckle? Since I know nothing about bull riding or bronco riding or barrel racing, I needed to find another way. Turns out that you can earn a belt buckle if you complete a long race. My particular race was the Frisco Railroad Run in Willard, Missouri. The race has several options 8K, 13.1 miles, 26.2 miles, 50 kilometers and 50 miles. You can earn a buckle at 50 km or 50 miles. The 50 K buckle is smaller than the 50 mile buckle, and what's the point. 50 km is only 32 miles. Hardly more than a marathon and I've done a few to test my grit.

You should know that my usual training regimen for a marathon is to do nothing. Why train if how fast I can run has nothing to do with it? I complete a marathon from time to time to test whether I can compel my body to complete the race. It's all a test, for me, of whether I have the grit. So I smoke 4-5 cigarettes, drink a pot of black coffee, and get up and do it. With the ultra, my admiral made me train. So, I spent 5 hours one Saturday and got about 20 miles under my belt. Then a couple of weeks later I spent three hours. Training complete. Now 50 miles.

You should know that I talked about it and so did my admiral (spoiler alert she finished 3 hours before me). So, at 4 a.m., I started.View attachment 520740

About mile 21 here's what happened:
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By the time I got to the turn-around (mile 25) I was fading. The balls of my feet were burning - blisters!:eek::eek::eek: I could also feel the pain of the toe-nails I was going to lose. Some of you know what I'm talking about. About mile 31, I started to negotiate - how could I cheat? It took about 5 miles to figure out that cheating was not feasible. Also, I wouldn't have been able to live with myself. It was about then that I felt a searing pain on the bottom of my right foot. It took a few strides before I understood that the blisters had exploded. Once I knew what had happened, I felt ok. I also started negotiating again. The race organizers gave runners an option to downgrade their race. So, having completed 50 km, all I had to do was get to the next aid station and wait to be driven back to the start. But I had talked about it. And when I talked about it I talked about 50 MILES. Nope. No way. I could never live with that. That negotiation lasted until about mile 44 when the blisters on the left foot burst. About that time, I understood what commitment was about. I had been suffering since mile 31. I learned that suffering is choice. I decided to choose to accept that the pain was part of the journey. Every painful step was a step closer to fulfilling the commitment I made to myself. So the last 6 miles were cake. (And if you believe that, I have some excellent swamp land for sale with no snakes ROTF) So, even though I really wanted a smoke and a cup of hot black coffee at mile 48, I waited until I finished the task.

Here's a video of my finish. My admiral, the Lovely Renee is handing me the belt buckle.

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I've been wearing it everyday.

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Thanks for letting me share this with you.

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck
Congratulations! Well done!
(Now after that astounding display of grit, determination, Stamina and will power, would you, for all our sakes [not to mention your beloved wife and loved ones] please quit smoking?:eek:

Pete
 
Chuck,
That is awesome!!! Cut the cigarettes and these races might be a little easier?!?!?! Who am I to talk...single malt and cigars tonight with old buddies.

I'm so glad you survived the "internal mind games" throughout the last half, stuck to it and now "have the buckle"!

We look forward to a new build log, after you recover from this brutal race.

Thanks for the run-down on the race!
 
Chuck,
That is awesome!!! Cut the cigarettes and these races might be a little easier?!?!?! Who am I to talk...single malt and cigars tonight with old buddies.

I'm so glad you survived the "internal mind games" throughout the last half, stuck to it and now "have the buckle"!

We look forward to a new build log, after you recover from this brutal race.

Thanks for the run-down on the race!
Brad! If it was easier anyone could do it ROTF Enjoy your fellowship tonight!

Blessings.
Chuck
 
Chuck,
That is awesome!!! Cut the cigarettes and these races might be a little easier?!?!?! Who am I to talk...single malt and cigars tonight with old buddies.

I'm so glad you survived the "internal mind games" throughout the last half, stuck to it and now "have the buckle"!

We look forward to a new build log, after you recover from this brutal race.

Thanks for the run-down on the race!
Thumbsup ThumbsupWell said!
 
What ho, shipmates!

I don't know why, but I remain amazed at how time flies. Thank all of you for checking in on this log. I promise to get started sooner rather than later.

So, "What's the hold up?", you may ask. Well, there was the 50 mile ultra marathon and the end of the semester and a trip to Ireland. All of that took up way too much time. And since Brad @BradNSW was interested in how the ultra went, I'll spend a post on that experience.

I've been a cowboy all my life. I've also been Superman and Batman. One of the things cowboys have is big belt buckles. They earn them. Earning a belt buckle was near the top of the bucket list I have been constructing in my head lately. So, how does a 60-year-old man earn a belt buckle? Since I know nothing about bull riding or bronco riding or barrel racing, I needed to find another way. Turns out that you can earn a belt buckle if you complete a long race. My particular race was the Frisco Railroad Run in Willard, Missouri. The race has several options 8K, 13.1 miles, 26.2 miles, 50 kilometers and 50 miles. You can earn a buckle at 50 km or 50 miles. The 50 K buckle is smaller than the 50 mile buckle, and what's the point. 50 km is only 32 miles. Hardly more than a marathon and I've done a few to test my grit.

You should know that my usual training regimen for a marathon is to do nothing. Why train if how fast I can run has nothing to do with it? I complete a marathon from time to time to test whether I can compel my body to complete the race. It's all a test, for me, of whether I have the grit. So I smoke 4-5 cigarettes, drink a pot of black coffee, and get up and do it. With the ultra, my admiral made me train. So, I spent 5 hours one Saturday and got about 20 miles under my belt. Then a couple of weeks later I spent three hours. Training complete. Now 50 miles.

You should know that I talked about it and so did my admiral (spoiler alert she finished 3 hours before me). So, at 4 a.m., I started.View attachment 520740

About mile 21 here's what happened:
View attachment 520741

By the time I got to the turn-around (mile 25) I was fading. The balls of my feet were burning - blisters!:eek::eek::eek: I could also feel the pain of the toe-nails I was going to lose. Some of you know what I'm talking about. About mile 31, I started to negotiate - how could I cheat? It took about 5 miles to figure out that cheating was not feasible. Also, I wouldn't have been able to live with myself. It was about then that I felt a searing pain on the bottom of my right foot. It took a few strides before I understood that the blisters had exploded. Once I knew what had happened, I felt ok. I also started negotiating again. The race organizers gave runners an option to downgrade their race. So, having completed 50 km, all I had to do was get to the next aid station and wait to be driven back to the start. But I had talked about it. And when I talked about it I talked about 50 MILES. Nope. No way. I could never live with that. That negotiation lasted until about mile 44 when the blisters on the left foot burst. About that time, I understood what commitment was about. I had been suffering since mile 31. I learned that suffering is choice. I decided to choose to accept that the pain was part of the journey. Every painful step was a step closer to fulfilling the commitment I made to myself. So the last 6 miles were cake. (And if you believe that, I have some excellent swamp land for sale with no snakes ROTF) So, even though I really wanted a smoke and a cup of hot black coffee at mile 48, I waited until I finished the task.

Here's a video of my finish. My admiral, the Lovely Renee is handing me the belt buckle.

View attachment 520742


I've been wearing it everyday.

View attachment 520743

Thanks for letting me share this with you.

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck
Good afternoon Chuck. No way. You are one “crazy “ man with a thing for pain. If I run 5 kms it is 5kms too far… ROTF .
Congratulations you can wear that buckle with pride. Cheers Grant
 
Good afternoon Chuck. No way. You are one “crazy “ man with a thing for pain. If I run 5 kms it is 5kms too far… ROTF .
Congratulations you can wear that buckle with pride. Cheers Grant
In the words of Grant Tyler: "True story." ROTF Thank you, Grant! I was regretting the decision around the second mile and for the whole time I told myself I would never commit to something so stupid ever again. Funny thing is that I have been looking at other 50 mile races - more belt buckles!

Blessings.
Chuck
 
I also like this crossover period in shipbuilding.This is Le Sphinx . She was first in a series of twenty corvettes built on the same plan. I have an ancient (1961) french kit of her sister "La Veloce" that i will be bashing into this ship. A real antique novelty, the kit is mostly card, a solid carved waterline hull and lead wire, at about 1/200.I prefer to build the Sphinx as she has the unusual history of being the ship that towed the barge ship "Louxsor" transporting Cleopatra's needle from Egypt to Paris. I have also started a scratch build of L'Aigle, 1859, Napoleons imperial yacht, another sidewheeler with an offcentered mechanism which corrects the angle of the blades as they rotate into the water, i may have bitten off more than i can chew there ! I will have to get round to learning photoetching for that. All this because i saw L'Orenoque and fell in love, haha ! here's a period painting of L'Aigle for your collectionView attachment 511403
Martin! I am about to post on the unboxing and I was looking for more plans of the class of 450hp steam paddle frigates when I (again) came across a set of plans for L'Aigle. You probably have them. Let me know if you want the reference :) On that note, the more I dive into the plans that I can find and the images I locate, the more I am convinced that the L'Orenoque kit is largely a work of fiction. More on that shortly!

Blessings.
Chuck
 
What ho, shipmates!

Well, the day has finally arrived - FINALLY!

I promised this unboxing a while back. You've been very patient - as expected given our shared interest in things that take years to complete ROTF Before I get into the contents of the box a few notes. This kit is not for the faint of heart or the complete novice. I have been eyeing her for years and I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger until I had the Lovely Renee nee Fair American and Harriet Lane under my belt. What I learned from those builds, with your kind assistance, will allow me, I think, hope and pray, to build a representation of the Darien class of French 450hp paddle frigates that looks like L'Orenoque may have looked. Compared to the available reference material I have so far, including the actual plans of L'Orenoque and some of her sisters, the kit is a highly fictionalized account of the ship. Much more on that point in due course, friends.

So, "What's in the box?" you say. In short, the box contains about 50-60%, at best, of what I'll use to build my model. All of the deadeyes and the blocks will have to be replaced. @Dry-Dock Models & Parts I will be placing a huge order! There are two sizes of line in a very shiny stuff (nylon?). This will be discarded. The belaying pins are grotesque bloated objects and will be replaced with the pins I sourced from BlueJacket for Harriet Lane. The wood, other than the dowels and planking material (which look excellent:D) is all well finished plywood. Mamoli/Dusek did a nice job with some of the laser cut parts - the window frames, door frames, ladders, capstans and particularly the ships wheel are very nice. Sadly, the ships boats are some kind of plastic or resin and all of the metal parts are white metal. It gets worse. Some of the metal parts, particularly the ludicrous crown for the smoke stack and the steam vents are very poorly cast, clunky and unusable MHO.

Here are a lot of shots of the contents. I will intersperse comments to highlight some issues and, as always, seek your wisdom.LO unbox 1.jpgLO unbox 2.jpg

In the next pic from top down are the skylight covers and paddlewheel box covers. Very nicely done! Based on the real ships plans and every image of similar ship the paddle wheel box covers are pure fiction and will not be used.

The metal fret is port lid hinges and something I haven't figured out yet. I'm not sure about the hinges - I have my own methods which may allow me to get around having to paint metal - one of my least favorite things to do.

At the bottom a very nice ships wheel and capstan frets. Definitely using the wheel! Not sure at this point, but I'll probably replace the capstans with DryDock capstans.

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The light wood fret in the middle is a brilliant piece of work - all wood detail for the ships boats - which I probably will not use because the boats are made of PLASTIC!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Moreover, the boats would likely be covered. Moreover, two of the five kit supplied boats, those suspended over the paddle wheel boxes, are completely fictional (more on that later). I will figure out something - perhaps the @Peter Gutterman method:).

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Here are pics of little things in little baggies. It is nice that the kit supplied two sizes of dead eyes. They are bagged together and would need to be sorted if I planned on using them. The same is true of the blocks - many sizes and many sheeves. Other than the air intakes and the anchors which seem particularly well cast, and the binnacle, despite being poorly case, all of the white metal parts are going in the circular file.

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See what I mean about the belaying pins !?! And that huge chain is meant to serve as the (yes, the only) bobstay. Again, complete fiction.

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This material is largely the smoke stack and, I guess, steam vents? I'll be making my own. The air intakes are nice.

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Here are the anchors and boat davits. Love the anchors! The davits are pretty good, bot now that I can make my own;) I may not use them.

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Stanchions. Bollards. And the binnacle in the lower left corner.

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Below are what I believe are meant to pass for the ships guns :eek: :eek: :eek: Not only do they appear to be well out of scale, but they are also a fiction. Ships of her class had either (4) four 22mm shell guns, or (8) eight 30lbrs on the upper deck and either (4) four or (6) six 22mm shell guns on the spar deck or a superstructure deck (See Winfield and Roberts French Warships in the Age of Sail 1786-1861 p. 331.)

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Here's the rest of what's in the box including the plastic ships boats! I should say, excluding the plans and the instructions which is another topic for another day. I will say that Pete was absolutely right about the instructions - If I didn't have a few ships completed I would never be able to understand what to do.

First - this fret holds the parts for the paddle wheel frames - VERY NICE! I hope they hold up under the stress of removing them. (I had to work very hard to get the false keel (3 parts) out of its fret).
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The flags are printed on very thin, yet stiff material. I will do what I usually do - print my own on paper so that they can properly catch the wind! To the left of the flags is the fret containing the ladders - again very nice!

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Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck
 
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Remember that with Mamoli (In my experience:3 out of 3 models) a considerable amount of research, departure from the plans, instructions (an "English" translation that can be most charitably regarded as " whimsical" :rolleyes: ) and kit bashing/scratch building, replacement of cast metal parts will be required. There will be no building a model that comes together with ease and facility out of the box. With apologies to Mamoli, that is my experience. I have found that much cursing, cajoling and the urge to throw my hands up in exasperation has been a common thread in building their kits. None the less I have always been able, thus far, to complete something I have been proud to take responsibility for and display when I finished. (I even sold my schooner-yacht America, which now resides in FT. Lauderdale, Fl.) Much has improved over the years since Dusek took over the brand. I hope you enjoy your build(s). I will follow with keen interest

You Humble and Obedient Servant,
Pete
Pete! I knew you were speaking the gospel here - you are after all Pete Gutterman - but now having really opened the box and checked everything over I can't believe how right you were. I don't think the Dusek effect has taken effect on this kit ROTF

Blessings.
Chuck
 
Mamoli or not, I've always managed to achieve something to be proud of out of it. I'd be kit bashing whatever the mfg. I like scratch building and detailing stuff. I like the research and finding the ship at some particular iteration that the history and research reveals and create what that. If past is prologue, I gather you do as well. Thumbsup ;)

Pete
 
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