As a newbie to this forum.

[Tom's modelbuild]

Hello everyone.
As a newbie to this forum, I am totally overwhelmed by what you guys are building.
I myself have built 5 billingboat sets.
But now I have become more and more keen to try scratchbuild, to challenge myself.

in that connection, I found it difficult to find out where to find original construction drawings.
Bought the book
"the Anatomy of NELSON's SHIPS by C. Nepean Longridge"

and I must admit it is something of a compendium, of information and drawings.

And I think it is perhaps too big a mouthful to start with such a construction, but on the other hand I am very fascinated by that ship.

But to return to the heart of the matter.

Where do you find material and books, and construction drawings that you use, as a reference for your scratchbuild.


With kindest regards
a Danish model builder who is fascinated by wooden model ships

 

[Namabiiru]

Welcome to SoS, Tom! @Dave Stevens (Lumberyard) has a wonderful thread on scratchbuilding going here: https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/school-for-model-ship-building.16440/post-447499

@AllanKP69 and @Roger Pellett (among many others) also have a wealth of knowledge and would probably be able to get you pointed in the right direction to start your research. It will help toknow what you have in mind for your build.

Good luck!

 

[Tom's modelbuild]

Thank you very much, I will look into it later today.

 

[fourseas]

Welcome to the SOS group Tom.

 

[Jimsky]

Welcome aboard SOS!

 

[Tom's modelbuild]

Welcome to the SOS group Tom.

tanks

 

[Tom's modelbuild]

Welcome to the SOS group Tom.

thanks

 

[Frank48]

Welcome aboard

 

[AllanKP69]

Welcome to SoS Tom!

I found it difficult to find out where to find original construction drawings.

Can you be more specific regarding nationality and era of the ship you want to build. There are a lot of contemporary drawings in the Danish Archives and the Royal Museum Greenwich to name just two. Many of the ones from Greenwich are available in low resolution for free on their website. About 800 of them are available in high definition on the WikiCommons website. I am not sure how to use the Danish archives but I am sure there are members that can help you download their drawings. The few I have from the Danish Archives are great.

There are about 3000 here on the Wiki Commons site but only 800 in high resolution. I have all of the 800 downloaded for future use, saves hunting later.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ship_plans_of_the_Royal_Museums_Greenwich.

RMG Collections

Explore the Collection Online | Royal Museums Greenwich

Explore seafaring history, timekeeping and astronomy, fine art and the world's largest maritime library and archive collection. Start your search today.

www.rmg.co.uk

For English ships there are also contemporary contracts available at RMG and the National Archives in Kew. I try to find a ship that has both contemporary drawings and contract so every part with dimensions is on hand.

Barring a contract being available there are scantlings for English ships from 1719 to the early 19th century including those from the Establishments of 1719, 1745, and 1750 and from the Shipbuilder's Repository 1788 and David Steel's The Elements and Practice of Naval Architecture. These can be found in individual books or altogether in Scantlings of Royal Navy Ships from Seawatch Books.

If you enjoy research you will love scratch building.

Allan

 

[Bobby K.]

Welcome to SOS
Bobby K

 

[Tom's modelbuild]

Welcome to SoS Tom!


Can you be more specific regarding nationality and era of the ship you want to build. There are a lot of contemporary drawings in the Danish Archives and the Royal Museum Greenwich to name just two. Many of the ones from Greenwich are available in low resolution for free on their website. About 800 of them are available in high definition on the WikiCommons website. I am not sure how to use the Danish archives but I am sure there are members that can help you download their drawings. The few I have from the Danish Archives are great.

There are about 3000 here on the Wiki Commons site but only 800 in high resolution. I have all of the 800 downloaded for future use, saves hunting later.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ship_plans_of_the_Royal_Museums_Greenwich.

RMG Collections

Explore the Collection Online | Royal Museums Greenwich

Explore seafaring history, timekeeping and astronomy, fine art and the world's largest maritime library and archive collection. Start your search today.

www.rmg.co.uk

For English ships there are also contemporary contracts available at RMG and the National Archives in Kew. I try to find a ship that has both contemporary drawings and contract so every part with dimensions is on hand.

Barring a contract being available there are scantlings for English ships from 1719 to the early 19th century including those from the Establishments of 1719, 1745, and 1750 and from the Shipbuilder's Repository 1788 and David Steel's The Elements and Practice of Naval Architecture. These can be found in individual books or altogether in Scantlings of Royal Navy Ships from Seawatch Books.

If you enjoy research you will love scratch building.

Allan

I'm not looking for a specific ship or time period as such.
I'm more interested in learning scratchbuild, from scratch, if it can be phrased like that.
but old wooden ships from the 18th century onwards,
this applies to warships as well as cargo ships.
I know that might sound a bit confusing.

But I will try to look further online and see if anything appears that could catch my interest and become a project I would throw myself into.

 

[Donnie]

I would go to www.ancre.fr
A.N.C.R.E. plans
They have a wide range of simple scratch to very complex. Usually plans come with a booklet as a building guide.

 

[Tom's modelbuild]

I would go to www.ancre.fr
A.N.C.R.E. plans
They have a wide range of simple scratch to very complex. Usually plans come with a booklet as a building guide.

I will take a look at it.
And many thanks

 

[Bob Cleek]

I would strongly advise anybody "jumping into the deep end of the pool" scratch building for the first time to begin with subjects such as ships' boats or local inshore working watercraft. Attempting to scratch build an Eighteenth-Century ship of the line full of cannon and encrusted with gingerbread carving is going to be far, far more than most anybody is going to be able to chew on their first attempt. Learn to crawl before you walk and walk before you try to run.

 

[Dave Stevens (Lumberyard)]

Bob is right i also would not suggest trying something big start small and easy then work up from there. a suggestion would be the Hannah.
go here to look at Hahn's model

Hannah by Harold Hahn

from the photo collection of the Harold Hahn library and archives

shipsofscale.com

there are several builders here on the forum that can help you with the project

go to the ship modeling school in scratch and check out how to build from semi scratch or full blown scratch

 

[Dave Stevens (Lumberyard)]

OR

you can start with an original set of drawings and build this nice schooner. you can build it solid hull, bulkhead hull or framed hull there are members here that can guild you all along the way.

personally, i like seeing a well-built model showing craftsmenship

 

[Dave Stevens (Lumberyard)]

sorry to say i can't help you with rigging the GRACIE S that is not my cup of Tea but hull construction that i can help with

 

[Dave Stevens (Lumberyard)]

a couple more schooners to look at

 

[Tom's modelbuild]

thanks for all the feed back that has been.

I continue to build kits. based on the response that has been that it is too big a mouthful for me to start with.

 

[Rebus]

Welcome aboard.