A new guys observations of the hobby

[danielsje]

I can only speak for myself here. I decided from the beginning to abandon the concept of historical accuracy. Drove me nuts. I am a kit builder. So I choose kits that I like and build them...sometimes I would "kit bash" to upgrade the kit parts to create better pieces/parts. Like brass canons to replace kit cannons. Or better wood to do the planking. I work the kit assembly at my leisure to create a model I am pleased with. Right now I am building the HMS Revenge 1577 race galleon. Into the rigging. My advice? Have fun with the direction you choose.

 

[Corsair]

I can only speak for myself here. I decided from the beginning to abandon the concept of historical accuracy. Drove me nuts. I am a kit builder. So I choose kits that I like and build them...sometimes I would "kit bash" to upgrade the kit parts to create better pieces/parts. Like brass canons to replace kit cannons. Or better wood to do the planking. I work the kit assembly at my leisure to create a model I am pleased with. Right now I am building the HMS Revenge 1577 race galleon. Into the rigging. My advice? Have fun with the direction you choose.

Many people seem to lose the concept that a hobby is supposed to be fun.
There also people that have fun making a model as accurate as possible.
Many that are in between.

 

[DARIVS ARCHITECTVS]

If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Mash]

Many people seem to lose the concept that a hobby is supposed to be fun.
There also people that have fun making a model as accurate as possible.
Many that are in between.

That's exactly how it is

 

[GaryA]

That's exactly how it is

So true, and with my build I am doing things that seem like fun and a lot of fun making but one thing I have never heard or seen on this channel is where are the ceiling builds for scratch builds here on this channel. I even went to AI to see if it had any idea but no. Maybe I am looking in the wrong spot. LOL

 

[RussF]

So true, and with my build I am doing things that seem like fun and a lot of fun making but one thing I have never heard or seen on this channel is where are the ceiling builds for scratch builds here on this channel. I even went to AI to see if it had any idea but no. Maybe I am looking in the wrong spot. LOL

"ceiling builds" ??? Is that Auzzie slang?

 

[Short John Bronze]

"ceiling builds" ??? Is that Auzzie slang?

Looking at a globe I think things must be the other way up in OZ

 

[Jack Sparrow]

wouldn't it be great if i could snap my fingers and the model would be painted. I hate painting.

 

[GaryA]

"ceiling builds" ??? Is that Auzzie slang?

No Mate, check out what is the ceiling part of a ship. Obviously, none of you have done this as " ceiling planking" describes the area from the keel to the top of the internal section of your model's hull. I see many models are not done with ceiling planks because it is maybe too hard to achieve??!! It's not Aussie slang it's a Pommy description. To keep the norm, we say it as we see it. Actually, ceiling maybe better than calling it internal hull planking. Hope we are on the same page now:
Ceiling (Traditional/Wooden context): The wooden planks or interior strips fitted over the frames directly against the inside of the hull.

 

[DARIVS ARCHITECTVS]

No Mate, check out what is the ceiling part of a ship. Obviously, none of you have done this as " ceiling planking" describes the area from the keel to the top of the internal section of your model's hull. I see many models are not done with ceiling planks because it is maybe too hard to achieve??!! It's not Aussie slang it's a Pommy description. To keep the norm, we say it as we see it. Actually, ceiling maybe better than calling it internal hull planking. Hope we are on the same page now:
Ceiling (Traditional/Wooden context): The wooden planks or interior strips fitted over the frames directly against the inside of the hull.

A ceiling is called an "overhead" on a ship.

 

[Roger Pellett]

No, he talking to planking attached to the INSIDE of the frames.

 

[RussF]

No Mate, check out what is the ceiling part of a ship. Obviously, none of you have done this as " ceiling planking" describes the area from the keel to the top of the internal section of your model's hull. I see many models are not done with ceiling planks because it is maybe too hard to achieve??!! It's not Aussie slang it's a Pommy description. To keep the norm, we say it as we see it. Actually, ceiling maybe better than calling it internal hull planking. Hope we are on the same page now:
Ceiling (Traditional/Wooden context): The wooden planks or interior strips fitted over the frames directly against the inside of the hull.

Thanks for the explanation Gary, however, I absolutely knew what ceiling planking is. I believe it was just the way you phrased the question. Had you said, "...where are all the builds that include ceiling planking..." or "...that include a full ceiling...", I would have understood. But to ask, "...where are all the ceiling builds" made me visualize someone sitting up on their chandelier building a model.

 

[GaryA]

Thanks for the explanation Gary, however, I absolutely knew what ceiling planking is. I believe it was just the way you phrased the question. Had you said, "...where are all the builds that include ceiling planking..." or "...that include a full ceiling...", I would have understood. But to ask, "...where are all the ceiling builds" made me visualize someone sitting up on their chandelier building a model.

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LOL, whoops, I missed the part that makes sense, LOL. However, do you know if there are builds where people have carried out the Ceiling Blanking on the channel?

 

[Corsair]

LOL, whoops, I missed the part that makes sense, LOL. However, do you know if there are builds where people have carried out the Ceiling Blanking on the channel?

There is a very small amount of ceiling planking in the 1/48 (and I imagine the 1/96) HMS Enterprise by Modelship Dockyard. The plans and several build logs are available in the group build section. Much of it is not installed on this kit normally so you can see internals of the construction of the model.

 

[GaryA]

There is a very small amount of ceiling planking in the 1/48 (and I imagine the 1/96) HMS Enterprise by Modelship Dockyard. The plans and several build logs are available in the group build section. Much of it is not installed on this kit normally so you can see internals of the construction of the model.

Thanks for that Jeff. What I am looking for is the approach modelers take when installing the Ceiling Planks. After studying it for a while in how to go about installation, is if you are doing internal and external planks, one should endeavour to fix in time the external planks and internal ceiling planks. This way the clamping and fitting of the planks can be achieved at more proper front where gaps are at a minimum. What I mean here, is you can clamp both sides at the same time. Of course, everyone knows, that wants to know, I am doing a scratch build of the Bounty and even with my first scratch build, I want to build the Bounty with parts of the deck to be able to be lifted off. This means I need to have the ceiling planks fitted. I have all sorts of plans in the nogging and have been doing a lot of study trying to find things out how to build such a model. There is not much out there, unfortunately. Artenas models have a Bounty but not even close to the admiralty models. No offence to those who have built one, as it's what I feel what is closer to reality of the boat of the time, is what I am chasing.
I will have a look at the group builds.