¡Grácias, Capitan! I noticed that in some pictures the bolt rope is covered with cloth. In others, it is stitched onto the canvas.
I have a question about bolt ropes. The directions show stitching cloth over them.
They look like this:
Do I roll the bolt ropes under and stitch them?
Or just leave them exposed?
They look like this:
Do I roll the bolt ropes under and stitch them?
Or just leave them exposed?
Sorry, Gilbert, I meant to post this on my thread.
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Most likely, the final size is already on these "sails".It is not necessary to turn them up.Check the size by attaching it to the ray.If there is no desire to do it again, take a normal thin fabric, such as cambric.I am confused by the crooked seams on the canvas.Then at least to give these sails a look, it is worth sheathing them around the edges with a lyctrose.And they are already forming loops at the corners of the sail.I hope I explained it clearly...And don't forget to at least stitch additional seams, where there will be reef point,
The loops aren’t fastened yet. I do plan on adding reefs. I’ve never seen reefs formed in an x shape before. Maybe I’m just not very observant.
Vic, you already know that sails are not sewn in the manner which Sergal has shown in the instructions. If I were you, I would take the time to check the sizes of the sails, and trim them to size if they are too large. If they are too small, you need make a new sail. Let's say that you find the size of the sails to be satisfactory, and that the clews are not wider than the lengths of the yards. Now is where you take crappy kit sails and make them better. You have two choices. You can cut off the edges, replace them with your own bolt ropes made from line, or live with the edges as they are, and take the loose ends at the corners, and use a needle to weave the end back into the corner or edge of the sail to form a loop. Cringles will have to be added at the sides of the sail by hand. The edges make for ugly simulations of bolt rope, but at viewing distance of 5', they work. Use PVA glue to secure the ends of the loops and cringles, and you will find this to be strong enough.
Personally, I bought a set of premade sails for La Couronne, and they had the same zig-zag stitch on the edges that yours have. I still have the sail set if anyone wants then, but they were not good enough in my opinion. There are no kit sails that are even close to realistic, which was disappointing, but it forced me to make my own sails, and I was very pleased with the results. If you look at my build log, you will see that for my small scale model, sewing the bolt ropes would have been too large, so actually PVA gluing the bolt ropes to the cloth edges was the technique that was chosen. You have to apply a tiny line of glue with a toothpick, but it holds. I saw that technique in a YouTube video from Russia somewhere. Those Russians always seem to have incredibly high talent for scratch build ship modelling!
Whatever you change will be an improvement. Sail making takes lots of patience, but remember that crappy sails destroy the appearance of a model more readily than a crappy hull.
Model with crappy kit sails.
Scratch made sail with sewn, and CA glue hardened edges, before bolt rope is attached.
Kit sail versus scratch made sail with glued on bolt rope.
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I think I’m sorry I asked. I only have a couple more weeks and haven’t started ratlines and running rigging yet. My back can only take about an hour at a time.
Sorry to hear that, Vic. Ratlines are tough on the back. Are you saying you only have a couple more weeks to finish the entire model? Am I missing something?
I’ve brought it to my daughter’s house in Nebraska. She’s recovering from surgery and I wanted to leave it with her. It’s also her birthday today. We don’t get up here too often. It’s a two day trip. And I’ve been at it a year now. My yards are made already. If I have to, I’ll leave it here unfinished and continue working on it when I come back next year. I think I’ll answer any other posts on my own thread. Je suis désolé, Gilbert.
Hi, I finally found the images of how to attach the bold rope to the edge of the sail. They will be the VERY last images I send out to builders if they are not deleted by the management-it is not the first time
if someone wants to contact me please use the E-MAIL_ PEANDERSEN@TELEFONICA.NET, SO TAKE NOTE AND INFORME OTHERS SORRY AND GOODBYE.
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Hi, I finally found the images of how to attach the bold rope to the edge of the sail. They will be the VERY last images I send out to builders if they are not deleted by the management-it is not the first time
if someone wants to contact me please use the E-MAIL_ PEANDERSEN@TELEFONICA.NET, SO TAKE NOTE AND INFORME OTHERS. SORRY AND GOODBYE.
if someone wants to contact me please use the E-MAIL_ PEANDERSEN@TELEFONICA.NET, SO TAKE NOTE AND INFORME OTHERS. SORRY AND GOODBYE.
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¡Grácias, y adiós amigo!
Looks like you followed the sail rigging plans well, Gilbert! The rigging for the braces on the sprit mast sail wasn’t according to the SR instructions, but that would be impossible because of the intervening sail. I think there’s enough space on the black line below the jib sail to place the brace blocks, so I think I’ll try that. You’re a sold builder, Gilbert.
Hi Vic
Thanks for your compliment, but I am far from being a solid builder
I just have fun and enjoy
And I enjoy your work. I have a question,though. Somehow I have misplaced my sail plans. Would you mind sending me a copy of yours, front and back? I don’t need the red ones. A photo would be sufficient.
Hi Vic
See below
Let me know if you want me to scan these pages and send them over email
See below
Let me know if you want me to scan these pages and send them over email
The Admiral says, “What a sweet man!” The Ensign (my daughter) concurs.
Working on the main yard/sail took more time than expected !!!
Living in the South of France when your grandchildren are visiting for the summer does not leave a lot of time for the shipyard
The main sail is now installed, and rigging will be the next step.
Below some pictures
Living in the South of France when your grandchildren are visiting for the summer does not leave a lot of time for the shipyard
The main sail is now installed, and rigging will be the next step.
Below some pictures
WELL DONE MATE, THE BOLD ROPE ON THE EDGE ARE VERY WELL DONE. I STILL HAVE THE BOOK OF THE ARQUITECTURA NAVAL RESERVED FOR YOU. TH REST HA ONE ASWELL THE TOOLS. YOU WILL NOR SEE ME VERT MUCH IN FUTURE HERE ON S.O.SBUR YOU CAB CONTACT MY IN MY MAIL....PEANDERSEN@TELEFONICA.NETWorking on the main yard/sail took more time than expected !!!
Living in the South of France when your grandchildren are visiting for the summer does not leave a lot of time for the shipyard
The main sail is now installed, and rigging will be the next step.
Below some pictures
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IN FACT, THE PICTURE ARE MINE-SAEND TO GILBERT- ELCAPI
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