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It‘s a pleasure to seeanew update of your ship. Very well done.
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A Dutch Fluyt in shell first, reconstructing the "Ghost ship" scale 1:36
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Finally a small update, not too much time for the hobby lately.
For the orlop coaming I made closed hatches.
The main hatch I splitted in two with a removable ledge in the middle to support the covers.
Next is the nailing of the planks and adding the rings to lift them.
The fwd hatch cover is a single piece.
Now working on the ladders in the holds.
And a brief overview.
For the orlop coaming I made closed hatches.
The main hatch I splitted in two with a removable ledge in the middle to support the covers.
Next is the nailing of the planks and adding the rings to lift them.
The fwd hatch cover is a single piece.
Now working on the ladders in the holds.
And a brief overview.
Very impressive. Beautiful work.
Nice hatches with nice details, Maarten.
Regards, Peter
Dear Maarten,
I ready your articels today for the secend time and I do have got a typical beginners' question for Durch shipbuilding:
Are these rules the same in use for the build of a warship? Or is the change frome pine to oak a complete gamechanger?
Thanks a lot, Chris
Hi Chris,
These rules are the same for a warship as they are used for shipbuilding in general. As the size of the parts are related to proportions, and the size of a bigger warship will be larger, the individual parts will be bigger.
These rules are the same for a warship as they are used for shipbuilding in general. As the size of the parts are related to proportions, and the size of a bigger warship will be larger, the individual parts will be bigger.
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Hi Maarten,
I am new to this forum and to model ship building but when I found your thread I just plowed through all 62 pages in 2 days. There is a little story behind me finding the thread and I wish to share it.
Around 16 years ago, I played a small part in a project in the Baltic sea. At the time, I was reasonably new in my profession and it has come to mean quite a lot for me. As I was starting to think about re-modeling our sitting room at home, I decided I wanted a model ship in there as marine archaeology is a bit of a passion even though I did not go down that path professionally. Because of that small project I took part of 16 years ago, I decided that the obvious ship to have was a Fluyt and I started looking for models when I stumbled on your build. The attention to detail is absolutely amazing and I love that you make all the frame members different sizes and shapes, just as I have seen on virtually every wreck I have visited.
I don't know if you are aware but there are two models of the Swan or "Ghostship" in existence already but they are both in her present state. After that little project in the Baltic was completed, two models of the wreck were commissioned. One was placed in a Swedish university and the other sat as a display at the company I worked for back then. Fast forward a bunch of years and the model disappeared, the company was sold and I subsequently switched employer. At my new place of work, the other model turned up and I am now looking into restoring it and creating a better looking display case for it. This is currently the only picture I have but I am sure you recognize her
I do not know how accurately she is build in terms of ship construction but as the wreck sits, she is very accurate. If you wish, I can snap som more detailed pictures in the upcoming weeks when I have time to go over to the workshop.
I now work quite a lot with marine archaeology and there are quite a few of these around in similar or better state of preserve. We have an upcoming long term project to bring these to the surface with photogrammetry so hopefully there will be a lot more data available within the upcoming years.
Regarding my Fluyt model, I realised that I can't just start there so I have just placed an order from Occre for my first two simpler models and maybe in a few years time I will have my Fluyt
Thank You for this gem of a build. I will follow it until completion
Kind Regards,
Erik
I am new to this forum and to model ship building but when I found your thread I just plowed through all 62 pages in 2 days. There is a little story behind me finding the thread and I wish to share it.
Around 16 years ago, I played a small part in a project in the Baltic sea. At the time, I was reasonably new in my profession and it has come to mean quite a lot for me. As I was starting to think about re-modeling our sitting room at home, I decided I wanted a model ship in there as marine archaeology is a bit of a passion even though I did not go down that path professionally. Because of that small project I took part of 16 years ago, I decided that the obvious ship to have was a Fluyt and I started looking for models when I stumbled on your build. The attention to detail is absolutely amazing and I love that you make all the frame members different sizes and shapes, just as I have seen on virtually every wreck I have visited.
I don't know if you are aware but there are two models of the Swan or "Ghostship" in existence already but they are both in her present state. After that little project in the Baltic was completed, two models of the wreck were commissioned. One was placed in a Swedish university and the other sat as a display at the company I worked for back then. Fast forward a bunch of years and the model disappeared, the company was sold and I subsequently switched employer. At my new place of work, the other model turned up and I am now looking into restoring it and creating a better looking display case for it. This is currently the only picture I have but I am sure you recognize her
I do not know how accurately she is build in terms of ship construction but as the wreck sits, she is very accurate. If you wish, I can snap som more detailed pictures in the upcoming weeks when I have time to go over to the workshop.
I now work quite a lot with marine archaeology and there are quite a few of these around in similar or better state of preserve. We have an upcoming long term project to bring these to the surface with photogrammetry so hopefully there will be a lot more data available within the upcoming years.
Regarding my Fluyt model, I realised that I can't just start there so I have just placed an order from Occre for my first two simpler models and maybe in a few years time I will have my Fluyt
Thank You for this gem of a build. I will follow it until completion
Kind Regards,
Erik
Hi Erik,
Thank you for your visit and I am delighted by your story and the picture you show above.
I wasn't aware there was a model made of the wreck, but she looks very realistic at a first glance.
I know that the wreck was sonar scanned so there must be a 3D model of her, so maybe the model is based on the sonar data.
All I have I shared in my blog but any additional data there is is extremely welcome and very interesting to see.
While doing research as a hobbyist you sometimes find closed doors but from time to time a new one opens and the above model is certainly one. The pictures of this model will be very valuable for my build.
Welcome to the hobby and starting with a kit makes very good sence. For you as an archeologist I am convinced you will have a lot of fun to build a model of a flute from scratch in the near future. Building one will need your attention and research to every part present in the real ship which is great fun and here are always people willing to help.
New wreck data is also very helpfull, as you have seen I use a lot of wreck data of other wrecks in different stages of decay to interpret internal construction details. So not only these magnificent complete ships are valuable but sometimes also wreck of just a small part of remaining hull sections.
Many thanks again and looking forward to the pictures.
Thank you for your visit and I am delighted by your story and the picture you show above.
I wasn't aware there was a model made of the wreck, but she looks very realistic at a first glance.
I know that the wreck was sonar scanned so there must be a 3D model of her, so maybe the model is based on the sonar data.
All I have I shared in my blog but any additional data there is is extremely welcome and very interesting to see.
While doing research as a hobbyist you sometimes find closed doors but from time to time a new one opens and the above model is certainly one. The pictures of this model will be very valuable for my build.
Welcome to the hobby and starting with a kit makes very good sence. For you as an archeologist I am convinced you will have a lot of fun to build a model of a flute from scratch in the near future. Building one will need your attention and research to every part present in the real ship which is great fun and here are always people willing to help.
New wreck data is also very helpfull, as you have seen I use a lot of wreck data of other wrecks in different stages of decay to interpret internal construction details. So not only these magnificent complete ships are valuable but sometimes also wreck of just a small part of remaining hull sections.
Many thanks again and looking forward to the pictures.
The fluyt on display in Hamburg.
Thx Kurt.WOW! Such craftsmanship! !
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Hi,
During the project we surveyed the wreck with ROV mounted multibeam and quite a few hours of video material. This was however quite some time ago and the technology was not quite where it is today. The sonar was mounted below the Sub-Atlantic Mohican that i have seen in some of the pictures you shared. We also mounted a smaller 20 x 20 cm ROV on another vehicle to try and penetrate the wreck but that was only rated to 75 m and water ingress killed it before we could use it.
I believe the sonar data is forever lost but there may be things in the old archives. I will dig around and see if we can open that door a little bit further.
I will head to the workshop latest next week and should then be able to snap some more pictures for you.
I don't know if this is allowed and I don't do this as an advertisement, but I really recommend our book Ghost Ships of the Baltic Sea by Jonas Dahm and Carl Douglas. Lots of very well composed pictures of wrecks in different states from all around the baltic from the 16th century and onwards. It only contains one picture from a fluyt though and it is a detail from a carving in the stern. I am not writing this to sell books, I just think it is a fantastic book
