Amerigo Vespucci Mantua/Panart 1:84

Uwek said:
On this web-page you will find several very good photos, also some showing her during her main refit 2013 in La Spezia shoiwng the hull in the dry dock

Reddit - Dive into anything

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also this page could be helpful


there are a lot of photos existing showing the steel hull in the dry docks, but unfortunately I am not able in moment to "catch" them

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all of them have the logo "Marina Militare" at the right bottom - maybe you contact them directly to get some additional information


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There are a lot of contact data (on the italian, not the english web-page) - I think "ufficio Storico" mean historical office
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Thanks for this.
Can't have to much information and background.
I see the ship sailed from its home port last weekend to Marseilles on the start of a world tour. Next stop is Las Palmas. They are the only two ports in Europe on this tour so I don't think I'll get to see it until it gets back to Italy in 2025.
 
Actually made a start this afternoon and cut out the first three parts (the keel).
Very disappointed to see that the centre section is warped. It is twisted about 2 or 3mm. I will try to correct it by clamping it overnight and hope that the current humidity that we are experiencing here in Spain is enough to pull it back into line, although at 7 mm thick the ply may need more serious treatment.
 
The overnight clamping did bring it into line a bit so I decided to proceed to see if the bulkheads and horizontal strengtheners would pull it the rest of the way. These turned out to be a very tight fit so I think I now have taken out the majority of the twist:IMG_20230708_175344.jpg
Once I add the decks later next week any remaining misalignment should be negligible.
 
Donnie said:
WOW - Huge Kit - and new - nothing like that feeling !
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Very true.
So happy to have decided on this kit. It has cost a fortune to refit the man cave in its new location but even my wife says it is worth it. (although I did notice a new lock on the outside of the door to the cave!)
 
You can also flip the frame upside down and see which bulkheads are touching on the desk for good alignment and twisting. Remember that those tiny errors add up quickly when planking and other things. a 3 or 4mm off can easily add up to be a problem. Not saying to shoot for perfection, but just something at this early stage to watch out for.
I remember turning my Santisima Trinidad upside down on the bench and it had a considerable amount of twist from let's say the bow bulkhead to the stern bulkhead of about 5mm. In other words, the frame would rock back and forth a little.
 
Barcomad said:
Actually made a start this afternoon and cut out the first three parts (the keel).
Very disappointed to see that the centre section is warped. It is twisted about 2 or 3mm. I will try to correct it by clamping it overnight and hope that the current humidity that we are experiencing here in Spain is enough to pull it back into line, although at 7 mm thick the ply may need more serious treatment.
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Good morning. Both my Victory and Cazador kits had the same issue. I also wet them and used clamps and pressure. The Victory (a Mantua kit) came out perfectly, while the Cazador looked good to the eye, however some issues raised their ugly heads later. Cheers Grant
 
Donnie said:
You can also flip the frame upside down and see which bulkheads are touching on the desk for good alignment and twisting. Remember that those tiny errors add up quickly when planking and other things. a 3 or 4mm off can easily add up to be a problem. Not saying to shoot for perfection, but just something at this early stage to watch out for.
I remember turning my Santisima Trinidad upside down on the bench and it had a considerable amount of twist from let's say the bow bulkhead to the stern bulkhead of about 5mm. In other words, the frame would rock back and forth a little.
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agreed, it's worth fixing it. My model of the Neeltje Jacoba also turned out a bit skewed (first time it happened to me, or at least the first time I noticed)
 
Donnie said:
You can also flip the frame upside down and see which bulkheads are touching on the desk for good alignment and twisting. Remember that those tiny errors add up quickly when planking and other things. a 3 or 4mm off can easily add up to be a problem. Not saying to shoot for perfection, but just something at this early stage to watch out for.
I remember turning my Santisima Trinidad upside down on the bench and it had a considerable amount of twist from let's say the bow bulkhead to the stern bulkhead of about 5mm. In other words, the frame would rock back and forth a little.
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The curvature of the deck and the difference in height of the bulkheads means that only the first and last touch the surface, and then only on one side at a time.
I have checked the diagonals and I have a difference of 4mm over nearly 80cm. Today I will dry fit the decks and see if that takes out the remaining twist. If not then soaking and gentle pressure will be the next step.
 
Barcomad said:
The curvature of the deck and the difference in height of the bulkheads means that only the first and last touch the surface, and then only on one side at a time.
I have checked the diagonals and I have a difference of 4mm over nearly 80cm. Today I will dry fit the decks and see if that takes out the remaining twist. If not then soaking and gentle pressure will be the next step.
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Dry fitting the deck had no effect. So soaking, clamps and piles of books.
Fingers crossed.
 
Barcomad said:
The curvature of the deck and the difference in height of the bulkheads means that only the first and last touch the surface, and then only on one side at a time.
I have checked the diagonals and I have a difference of 4mm over nearly 80cm. Today I will dry fit the decks and see if that takes out the remaining twist. If not then soaking and gentle pressure will be the next step.
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I just checked my images from my build of the project. Trying to jog my memory back to 2005 ;-) I don't recall needing to do anything forceful to create the frame. Only the upper deck needed clamping in place, but that was just the sheer of the deck. I also made a picture of the assembled frame, upside down, so you can compare your current result to what I got at the time
 
martijnonderwater said:
I just checked my images from my build of the project. Trying to jog my memory back to 2005 ;-) I don't recall needing to do anything forceful to create the frame. Only the upper deck needed clamping in place, but that was just the sheer of the deck. I also made a picture of the assembled frame, upside down, so you can compare your current result to what I got at the time
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Amerigo Vespucci, Panart 1:84 [COMPLETED BUILD]

I built the Amerigo Vespucci from 2005-2015. It was a massive project, but I'm still enjoying the results today. For me, the most special time was the construction of the stand that the Amerigo is now resting on. I received a section of an oak tree (with the bark still attached) from an...
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Can now continue with the build so started adding the reinforcing and fareing of the frames.

But how about this...

I've booked a flight to las Palmas, Gran Canaria where The AV will arrive next week. I expect to get to visit it on Friday 21st and watch it leave harbour on the 22nd. This will be it's last time in Europe before it returns from it's world tour, Feb 2025. (Next stop Dakar, Senegal)
So looking forward to seeing the real thing.
So lucky to have an understand lady wife who will let me of of the man cave for a few days.
 
Barcomad said:
Can now continue with the build so started adding the reinforcing and fareing of the frames.

But how about this...

I've booked a flight to las Palmas, Gran Canaria where The AV will arrive next week. I expect to get to visit it on Friday 21st and watch it leave harbour on the 22nd. This will be it's last time in Europe before it returns from it's world tour, Feb 2025. (Next stop Dakar, Senegal)
So looking forward to seeing the real thing.
So lucky to have an understand lady wife who will let me of of the man cave for a few days.
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Hello Barcomad
Lucky you to go and see the AV
She was in Marseille last week and I only found out the day she departed :rolleyes:
I'm sure you'll take a lot of pictures . Please share them
 
Barcomad said:
Can now continue with the build so started adding the reinforcing and fareing of the frames.

But how about this...

I've booked a flight to las Palmas, Gran Canaria where The AV will arrive next week. I expect to get to visit it on Friday 21st and watch it leave harbour on the 22nd. This will be it's last time in Europe before it returns from it's world tour, Feb 2025. (Next stop Dakar, Senegal)
So looking forward to seeing the real thing.
So lucky to have an understand lady wife who will let me of of the man cave for a few days.
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Great - lucky you
Maybe afterwards you could share the photos (as much as possible) in this area

Photos of Real Ships for Reference

This Forum is for Posting Photos of "Real Ships for Reference purposes". This forum will really be helpful to those that wish to see real images of their favorite ship(s) they are building.
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Uk get as many photos as I can.
Meanwhile for those interested in seeing the ship, the wield your schedule is as follows:
  • Marseille (France): 04-07 July 2023
  • Las Palmas (Spain): 19-22 July 2023
  • Dakar (Senegal): 29 July – 01 August 2023
  • Praia (Cape Verde): 04-06 August 2023
  • Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic): 28 August-02 September 2023
  • Cartagena (Colombia): 07-10 September 2023
  • Port of Spain (Trinidad): 18-19 September 2023
  • Fortaleza (Brazil): 04-08 October 2023
  • Rio de Janeiro (Brazil): 20-24 October 2023
  • Montevideo (Uruguay): 02-05 November 2023
  • Buenos Aires (Argentina): 06 November 2023 – 01 April 2024
  • Ushuaia (Argentina) and Punta Arenas (Chile): 13-16 April 2024
  • Valparaiso (Chile): 28 April – 02 May 2024
  • Callao (Peru): 12-15 May 2024
  • Guayaquil (Ecuador): 21-24 May 2024
  • Balboa (Panama): 31 May – 02 June 2024
  • Acapulco (Mexico): 15-19 June 2024
  • Los Angeles (USA): 01-06 July 2024
  • Honolulu (USA): July 24-28, 2024
  • Tokyo (Japan): 25-30 August 2024
  • Manila (Philippines): 14-18 September 2024
  • Darwin (Australia): 04 -07 October 2024
  • Jakarta (Indonesia): 20-24 October 2024
  • Singapore (Republic of Singapore): 30 October – 03 November 2024
  • Mumbai (India): 24-28 November
  • Karachi (Pakistan): 03-06 December 2024
  • Doha (Qatar): 13-16 December 2024
  • Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates): 18-21 December 2024
  • Muscat (Oman): 24-27 December 2024
  • Safaga (Egypt): 15-18 January 2025
  • Larnaca (Cyprus): 29-31 January 205
  • La Spezia (Italy): 11 February 2025
 
Barcomad said:
Uk get as many photos as I can.
Meanwhile for those interested in seeing the ship, the wield your schedule is as follows:
  • Marseille (France): 04-07 July 2023
  • Las Palmas (Spain): 19-22 July 2023
  • Dakar (Senegal): 29 July – 01 August 2023
  • Praia (Cape Verde): 04-06 August 2023
  • Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic): 28 August-02 September 2023
  • Cartagena (Colombia): 07-10 September 2023
  • Port of Spain (Trinidad): 18-19 September 2023
  • Fortaleza (Brazil): 04-08 October 2023
  • Rio de Janeiro (Brazil): 20-24 October 2023
  • Montevideo (Uruguay): 02-05 November 2023
  • Buenos Aires (Argentina): 06 November 2023 – 01 April 2024
  • Ushuaia (Argentina) and Punta Arenas (Chile): 13-16 April 2024
  • Valparaiso (Chile): 28 April – 02 May 2024
  • Callao (Peru): 12-15 May 2024
  • Guayaquil (Ecuador): 21-24 May 2024
  • Balboa (Panama): 31 May – 02 June 2024
  • Acapulco (Mexico): 15-19 June 2024
  • Los Angeles (USA): 01-06 July 2024
  • Honolulu (USA): July 24-28, 2024
  • Tokyo (Japan): 25-30 August 2024
  • Manila (Philippines): 14-18 September 2024
  • Darwin (Australia): 04 -07 October 2024
  • Jakarta (Indonesia): 20-24 October 2024
  • Singapore (Republic of Singapore): 30 October – 03 November 2024
  • Mumbai (India): 24-28 November
  • Karachi (Pakistan): 03-06 December 2024
  • Doha (Qatar): 13-16 December 2024
  • Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates): 18-21 December 2024
  • Muscat (Oman): 24-27 December 2024
  • Safaga (Egypt): 15-18 January 2025
  • Larnaca (Cyprus): 29-31 January 205
  • La Spezia (Italy): 11 February 2025
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really nice destinations - Let us meet in Honolulu in July next year? or or or
 
Barcomad said:
Uk get as many photos as I can.
Meanwhile for those interested in seeing the ship, the wield your schedule is as follows:
  • Marseille (France): 04-07 July 2023
  • Las Palmas (Spain): 19-22 July 2023
  • Dakar (Senegal): 29 July – 01 August 2023
  • Praia (Cape Verde): 04-06 August 2023
  • Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic): 28 August-02 September 2023
  • Cartagena (Colombia): 07-10 September 2023
  • Port of Spain (Trinidad): 18-19 September 2023
  • Fortaleza (Brazil): 04-08 October 2023
  • Rio de Janeiro (Brazil): 20-24 October 2023
  • Montevideo (Uruguay): 02-05 November 2023
  • Buenos Aires (Argentina): 06 November 2023 – 01 April 2024
  • Ushuaia (Argentina) and Punta Arenas (Chile): 13-16 April 2024
  • Valparaiso (Chile): 28 April – 02 May 2024
  • Callao (Peru): 12-15 May 2024
  • Guayaquil (Ecuador): 21-24 May 2024
  • Balboa (Panama): 31 May – 02 June 2024
  • Acapulco (Mexico): 15-19 June 2024
  • Los Angeles (USA): 01-06 July 2024
  • Honolulu (USA): July 24-28, 2024
  • Tokyo (Japan): 25-30 August 2024
  • Manila (Philippines): 14-18 September 2024
  • Darwin (Australia): 04 -07 October 2024
  • Jakarta (Indonesia): 20-24 October 2024
  • Singapore (Republic of Singapore): 30 October – 03 November 2024
  • Mumbai (India): 24-28 November
  • Karachi (Pakistan): 03-06 December 2024
  • Doha (Qatar): 13-16 December 2024
  • Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates): 18-21 December 2024
  • Muscat (Oman): 24-27 December 2024
  • Safaga (Egypt): 15-18 January 2025
  • Larnaca (Cyprus): 29-31 January 205
  • La Spezia (Italy): 11 February 2025
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…no Cape Town….hmmm
 
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